Karen and Bradley discuss the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance and other issues related to copyright assignment.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:46)

• Bradley didn't want his words compared to the Ayn Rand's quote from an interview with Phil Donahue where she said I'm not going to die, it's just that world will end. (02:54)
• Bradley discussed the reaction to on 0x36 that occurred in this identi.ca thread. (04:20)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance. (11:15)
• Bradley pointed out that every other copyleft license allows for relicensing under newer versions automatically (i.e., they have an automatic -or-later ), and Karen asked whether Sun's CDDL does. Bradley checked later, Karen was correct that CDDL's later version clause (Section 4) is similar to the GPL policy. (23:00) However, Fontana wrote to us on IRC to say CDDL's license upgradeability clause is not entirely like GPL's. The GPL states that if no version number is specified, any version can be used. CDDL does not say this; it seems to assume that it will always be clear what version CDDL code will be distributed under, whereas GPL seems to assume otherwise.
• Bradley mentioned the interview he did with The H Online on GPL enforcement. (41:57)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss the GPL Compliance Panel from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

Karen and Bradley have some not-so-witty banter about the FOSDEM 2013 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Segment 1 (00:07:19)

The speakers on the panel are (in order of appearance):

• Tom Marble, introduces the panel.
• Karen Sandler, moderator.
• Alexios Zavras
• Richard Sands
• Bradley M. Kuhn
• Harald Welte

Segment 2 (01:02:51)

• Bradley mentioned the Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons, but incorrectly said he didn't have an actual name, which he does (Jeff Albertson) (01:05:30)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Till Jaeger's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled What is a derivative work under European Copyright Law?.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 2 (00:02:41)

The speaker's that you hear are:

• Tom Marble, introduces the talk, and asks one of the questions.
• Till Jaeger, who gives the talk

The slides for Till Jaeger's talk are available.

Segment 2 (00:49:11)

• Bradley and Karen discuss Till's talk.
• Clarence Thomas spoke the first time in the Supreme Court. Bradley said that he said it did not, but apparently he actually said he did not. (59:49)
• Bradley scanned in his Brussels airport train ticket that had his notes on it, where you can read noa push caa. (01:06:40)
• Bradley mentioned the phrase Elvis has left the building. (01:07:15)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gabriel Holloway's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled FOSS code goes in and never comes out: The Challenge of Sandboxed Proprietary Cloud Services.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:05:48)

The speaker's that you hear are:

• Gabriel Holloway, who gives the talk
• Till Jaeger asks the first question.
• A few other questions are asked, but we're unsure who the speakers are.
• Tom Marble, asks a question later.

Unfortunately, Gabe didn't provide us with slides.

Segment 2 (00:52:25)

• Bradley mentioned the Berne Convention on Copyright. (01:07:19)
• Karen mentioned Cooper Union and how they are in danger of running out of money for their full tuition scholarships. (01:10:00)
• Bradley looked but couldn't find the NPR story about terms of use. (01:19:37)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Simon Phipps' and Amanda Brock's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Should We Embrace App Stores?.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:03)

• Simon and Amanda used no slides during their talk.
• Amanda misquotes Bradley at 07:30. Bradley said: An unenforced copyleft is the moral equivalent of a permissive license, not that you give a license automatically not by enforcing. You can listen to FaiF Episode 0x38 to verify.

Segment 1 (00:49:35)

Bradley and Karen discuss the talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Pamela Chestek's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled How to Share a Trademark.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 0 (00:02:05)

Pam gave us slides, but it's all in one big SVG.

Segment 2 (00:55:10)

• The talk that Bradley mentioned was this talk that Karen gave at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2012; he was unable to find a recording. (57:04)
• Note that most of the time the word source was used in the talk and Karen's comments, it means origin, not source code. (01:05:55)
• Bradley mentioned this Planet Money story about the 5¢ coke. (01:21:37)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the sexist comment issue that occurred a few months ago at PyCon USA 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley and Karen previously discussed conference behavior back in Episode 0x04.
• Bradley had blogged a few years ago about the issues of sexism through the computer industry, including this study showing the glass ceiling in CS academics. (05:17)
• Bradley mentioned that he'd blogged in the past that proprietary software companies also have issues of sexism at conferences (05:58)
• Bradley mentioned the How to Perform Like a Porn Star CouchDB talk at a Ruby Conference (06:13)
• There is indeed a Project named PyCorn. (09:38)
• Bradley mentioned the Planet Money story about Online Pharmacies but he couldn't find the original audio of the longer piece that ends with the phrase Stay Shady, Internet (21:30)
• Bradley mentioned a quote about the human mind being the most dangerous thing because everything is in it, which is actually from Heart of Darkness by Joesph Conrad. (23:40)
• Bradley mentioned that a keynoter at LinuxCon Europe made sexist comments back in 2011. (30:02)
• Bradley and Karen encouraged listeners to promote the GNOME Foundation Outreach Program for Women (31:20)
• Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comment at LinuxCon North America in 2009 (32:02).

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gervase Markham's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Mozilla: Licensing In The Trenches.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley encouraged listeners to Conservancy's campaign for non-profit accounting software.
(02:10)
• Bradley mentioned his 2009 blog post encouraging people to donate to Free Software charities (02:50)
• Karen asked people to donate to the GNOME Foundation privacy campaign (04:11)

Segment 1 (00:04:57)

Gerv's slides from his FOSDEM 2013 talk can be downloaded from FOSDEM's website.

Segment 2 (00:51:48)

Bradley and Karen discuss Gerv's talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss The panel discussion on the GNU Affero General Public License from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

• Bradley asked for donations again to Conservancy's NPO accounting software campaign and Karen asked for donations to GNOME's Privacy Campaign.

Segment 1 (00:04:50)

This is the Panel Discussion: GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 from FOSDEM 2013. The speakers, in the order their voices are heard, are Tom Marble (introduction), Richard Fontana (moderator), Bradley M. Kuhn, Eileen Evans, and Christopher Allan Webber.

Segment 2 (01:06:47)

• Bradley mentioned the phrase Give me convenience or give me death, which is from a title of the Dead Kennedys album he suggested applied to the selection of proprietary software (01:10:10)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' recent update to his Who does that server really serve? essay. (01:11:30)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post on doing VoIP encryption with Free Software. (01:14:04)
• Bradley mentioned his talk entitled The Affero GPLv3: Why It Exists & Who It's For? at the Southern California Linux Expo 11x. The slides are available and the sources for the slides are available. (01:17:30)

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Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in cars.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (00:01:43)

• Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in the automotive industry.
• Alison mentioned the Genivi Alliance, which is an industry trade association with some interest in “Open Source”.
• Alison presented a session at LibrePlanet about the Right to Repair act in Massachusetts. (00:14:30)
• Alison encouraged listens to get involved with Right to Repair and the Massachusetts Right to Repair.

Segment 2 (00:36:09)

• Karen moderated a panel at the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2013 on Automotive issues (37:12)

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Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

Show Notes:

Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (00:03:03)

Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin.

Segment 2 (00:25:23)

• Karen and Bradley wrap up the discussion about 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6).
• Bradley referenced this post which ocurred in this thread about Linus saying Greg KH is a door-mat. (26:36, 34:55)
• The OSCON session that Bradley chaired was Non-Profits Organizations for FLOSS Projects: There Is No Place Like Home, and the slides are available. (33:21)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Jean-Baptiste Kempf's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Relicensing libVLC and VLC modules from GPL to LGPL.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:28)

• The plural of hiatus appears to be hiatukset, but hiatuses is the proper English. (01:50)
• Bradley adopted two dogs from a shelter. They like kongs (02:30)
• Bradley's wife has a blog with pictures of their dogs. (04:30)

Segment 1 (00:05:52)

Jean-Baptiste Kempf slides are available for this talk.

Segment 2 (01:03:20)

• Bradley had written a a blog post about the VLC relicensing. (01:03:48)
• Bradley mentioned a an article in The Onion about pugs known health problems (01:15:47)
• Karen mentioned The Last GUADEC blog post.

Segment 3 (01:21:00)

Bradley and Karen discussed the release of the ExFAT Samsung source code.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss John Sullivan's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled State of the GNUnion.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:01:58)

The slides for John's talk are available, and the source of those slides is available too.

Segment 1 (00:54:31)

• Bradley mentioned RMS' essay, Who Does That Server Really Serve? (01:08:55)

Segment 2 (01:14:53)

Private Internet Access became a new GNOME Advisory Board Member.

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Bradley and Karen explain why they've been gone for so long, and then discuss the recent Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

• Karen is now Executive Director of Conservancy and Bradley is President and Distinguished Technologist. (03:01)
• Bradley will be working extensively on the NPO Accounting Project. (03:40)

Segment 1 (00:09:37)

• Karen says the Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision is not an engaging read, but the lower court decision was. (09:50)
• Karen said: You're out of your element, Donny! (12:38)
• Karen mentioned a tweet from the EFF (15:23)
• Bradley mentioned his older blog post about the previous decision (16:48)
• Karen incorrectly said we never recorded a show on the previous decision, but we did indeed discuss the previous Oracle v. Google decision in , which Bradley and Karen discussed in Episode 0x35 (18:53)
• Karen and Bradley explained what an affirmative defense, arguments in the alternative, and merger doctrine. (21:03)
• Bradley mentioned the Apache Software Foundation is now publicly more against copyleft software than proprietary software, and that such position is unreasonable, unlike the OpenBSD position that copyleft and proprietary software are equally bad: a position Bradley disagrees with but agrees is consistent, reasonable moral stance. (38:40)
• Bradley mentioned his discussions with Mark J. Wielaard of the Classpath project (52:20)
• Bradley and Karen ask people to doante to Conservancy.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the details, what to worry about, and what the usual duties are when serving on a Board of Directors for a USA non-profit. The discussion is primarily about 501(c)(3) organizations, but at the end they spend some time discussing 501(c)(6) organizations as well.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:44)

• An image of Alfie chewing on the antler (01:22)
• Karen is running for the GNOME Foundation Board of Directors. (05:15)
• Bradley once criticized the CNRI OPEN SOURCE LICENSE AGREEMENT (used for parts of Python), because it is governed by the laws of a place that doesn't exist. (06:48)
• Bradley mentioned a Planet Money episode that talked about it's “too easy” to incorporate in Delaware (23:50)

Segment 1 (00:32:25)

• Bradley and Karen discuss various additional things about being on a Board of Directors, including why and how you might be able to serve on one.
• Bradley and Karen discuss the requirements for getting on a 501(c)(6) Board like Linux Foundation (55:30)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:37)

• Bradley mentioned the Planet money t-shirt story (03:04)
• Bradley mentioned he buys Union made sweat pants (04:42)

Segment 1 (00:06:48)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 2 (00:07:20)

This segment is the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013. You can follow along with the slides.

Segment 3 (00:50:55)

• Bradley mentioned a talk he gave on 2005-03-12 at UC Irvine to a workshop of academics meeting about the research area of Computing Communities. Bradley still has some email archives regarding this, but can't find any online link to the workshop (URLs in the emails are all dead) or a recording of his talk. (58:52).
• As Bradley mentioned, ESR self-identifies as a gun nut. (01:00:19)
• Bradley mentioned FaiF 0x3A, which had Gabriel Holloway's talk (01:03:27)

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Bradley and Karen discuss why software freedom as a political, social and moral issue is important to each of them personally.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley mentioned that he used to frequently give talks on why software freedom is important to him. There are available on FSF's Audio/Video website three different recordings of that talk, usually titled Software Freedom and the GNU Generation. (01:28)
• Bradley's first distribution was SLS. (18:20)
• Bradley mentioned that OpenStack was denied 501(c)(6) trade association status by the IRS. (37:56)
• Karen mentioned the Cooper Union law suit. (48:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, copyleft-next: an Introduction by Richard Fontana given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (05:37)

The slides Fontana's talk on copyleft-next are available.

Segment 2 (01:06:51)

• Bradley mentioned the issue of Noam Chomsky's points on concision (01:13:23).
• Bradley mentioned the anti-GPL keynote by Tom Preseton-Werner of Github at OSCON 2013. (01:14:53)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the Harvey Birdman Rule. (1:27:45)
• Bradey mentioned a comment he posted about CHR-governed policy meetings. (01:29:00)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Why the free software phone doesn't exist by Aaron Williamson given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (04:06)

Aaron's slides area available.

Segment 2 (56:41)

• Bradley mentioned dakota imaging where he used to work. (1:02:15)
dacotag imaging
• Karen mentioned Aaron's OSCON 2010 talk (but we incorrectly said it was 2009). (1:04:35)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Contributor Licensing Agreements, which pulls material from Bradley's blog posts on the subject.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley mentioned FSF's copyright assignment process. (05:50)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' essay regarding what you should do if a company asks you to assign copyright on Free Software. (14:00)
• Open Stack is reconsidering their CLA.
• Bradley mentioned again that goofy Eclipse contributor poster. (27:22)

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Bradley and Karen host a panel discussion on CLAs with Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the panel discussion.

Segment 1 (01:28)

• The panel guests are Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.
• Van quoted from the Apache Corporate CLA. (40:55)

Segment 2 (48:17)

• Bradley and Karen wrap up the discussion.
• Bradley mentioned the AKG C1000S which we use to record the oggcast. (50:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Copyleft vs. Permissive vs. Contributor License Agreements: A Veteran’s Perspective by Simo Sorce given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Simo's talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:02)

The slides from Simo's talk are available, if you want to follow along

Segment 2 (00:59:50)

• Bradley menitoned his blog post about CLA's on Conservancy's website. (01:00:10)

Segment 3 (01:10:22)

Bradley and Karen are still trying to decide what to do about the FOSDEM 2014 talks.

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Karen Sandler interviews Lennart Poettering and Alan Day during the GNOME Asia Summit 2013. Bradley and Karen comment on this interview.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Karen's interview with Lennart Poettering and Alan Day.

Segment 1 (02:06)

Karen interviews Lennart Poettering and Alan Day about Lennart's Sandboxed Applications for GNOME talk at GNOME Asia Summit 2013.

Segment 1 (35:24)

• Bradley mentioned his comment during the GPLv3 process regarding the Ty Coon issue. (41:20)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the key differences between 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6) organizations in the USA, and discuss recent refusals by the IRS to grant such statuses to Open Source and Free Software orgs.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Bradley mentioned the 501(c)(3) vs. 501(c)(6) difference came up on FaiF 0x41. (03:35)
• Bradley mentioned that in 501(c)(3) status from the IRS is based on receiving some status governed by §170(b)(1)(A) of the tax code. (Most Free Software charities, such as Conservancy, are classifed as non-profit charities under §170(b)(1)(A)(vi).) (05:10)
• Bradley mentioned this issue had been discussed on FLOSS Foundations' mailing list (05:50)
• Bradley discussed that at the OSCON 2013 tutorial, Community Foundations 101, most of the 501(c)(6) representatives who spoke argued incorrectly that the differences between 501(c)(3)'s and 501(c)(6)'s were not substantive. (10:50)
• Karen referenced how the TV show Silicon Valley parodies the irony of for-profit software companies claiming they make the world a better place. (11:58)
• Bradley mentioned he was inspired by Michael Moore in his work on Free Software. (15:02)
• Bradley mentioned Karen's talk called Identity Crisis (15:21)
• Karen mentioned that open source was on the list of items the IRS gave additional scrutiny. (16:51)
• Bradley mentioned a blog post by Jim Nelson where Yorba's rejection was discussed; Yorba's 501(c)(3) application was previously discussed on was discussed on 0x1C, and covered in many other places. (17:46)
• Karen wrote a blog post about why she isn't worried for Conservancy's 501(c)(3) status at this time. (18:30)
• Bradley mentioned that IRS decisions don't make precedent, and if there's a dispute, it would go to USA Tax Court (19:00)
• Mozilla Foundation's odd hybrid for-profit/non-profit model was audited by the IRS, and Mozilla Foundation settled with the IRS. (20:22)
• Open Stack Foundation was initially denied 501(c)(6) status, as reported on Mark McLoughlin's blog. (25:10)
• Bradley promised links to both Yorba's 501(c)(3) denial letter from the IRS and Open Stack Foundation's 501(c)(6) denial letter from the IRS. (The response to the IRS from OpenStack, written by DLA Piper, OpenStack Foundation's law firm, is also available, too. (27:15)
• Bradley and Karen discussed Board of Directors meetings in FaiF 0x45: I'm Board (31:40)
• Bradley mentioned the How fresh stays fresh campaign, which includes the Nature's Pause Button television commercials by the American Frozen Food Institute, which is a 501(c)(6) organization. It's FY 2012 Form 990 is the most recent on available.
• Bradley also mentioned the Beef: It's What's For Dinner advertisting campaign that has existed for decades in the USA, which is sponsored by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, Inc. which is a 501(c)(6) as well. It's FY 2012 Form 990 is the most recent on available.
(35:40)
• Bradley further mentioned the Pork: the other white meat advertising campaign, which has also existed for decades but is now called the Pork: Be Inspired campaign, seems a bit more dubious in its non-profit existence. It appears to be funded by the National Pork Board Foundation, which is ostensibly a 501(c)(3) but has no assets, revnue nor expenses, and appears to be a front for an org called the America's Pork Producers / Pork Checkoff, which appears to be some quasi-govermental agency related to pork (in other words, it's pork for pork). More research would probably be needed to figure out better what's going on here with regard to non-profit status, but it seems that unlike the Beef ads, which are clearly funded by a 501(c)(6), this campaign is funded by a separate legislation, presumably unrelated to §501(c). There is, BTW, also, a 501(c)(5) called the National Pork Producers Council, which appears to be where the big money is (— not surprisingly — 501(c)(4)'s and 501(c)(5)'s often make 501(c)(6)'s and 501(c)(3)'s look tiny by comparison). (36:13)

Segment 1 (39:43)

Conservancy and OSI jointly announced a working group on IRS applications and denials. (40:49)

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Bradley and Karen discuss and criticize comments made by Linus Torvalds at his Q&A during DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen discuss the Q&A with Linus Torvalds at DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014. (01:09)

Segment 1 (04:30)

• Ryan Lortie asked about an offensive public statement Linus Torvalds made on 6 July 2012. (05:04)
• Bradley mentioned that Linus Torvalds argued Red Hat was kowtowing to Microsoft using offensive language. (07:57)
• Karen mentioned that Linus called GNOME an unholy mess. (19:05)

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Note: Episode 0x5A was released out of sequence, but they are in the order of release date on faif.us (rather than numerical order).

Karen and Bradley discuss connections between the so-called “Gamergate” controversy and how it relates to the Free Software community and a few obvious legal issues.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

• Karen asked if Bradley had heard of the Gamergate situation. (01:30)
• Matthew Garrett wrote a blog post regarding this topic entitled Actions have consequences (or: why I'm not fixing Intel's bugs any more) (10:23)
• Mathew was attacked on LKML about this blog post (10:50)
• Lennart Poettering also wrote an essay recently about aggression and attacking people in Free Software communities. (12:12)
• Karen mentioned the harassment Kathy Sierra faced in the late 2000s. (13:00)
• Bradley called out Linux Foundation to ask why they tacitly support the bad behavior by its employees and others in the Linux Project (14:35, 31:10)
• Bradley mentioned that Antti Aumo in his LinuxCon Europe 2011 keynote, said that a great thing about the Internet of Things is that you can put a lock on your fridge when the wife's on a diet. (16:32)
• Bradley mentioned the Eddie Murphy's Saturday Night Live skit, White Like Me, which according to the transcript, originally aired on 1984-12-15 on SNL. (24:45)
• Bradley mentioned FaiF 0x13, which discussed torts and why they're important. (29:50)
• Bradley wrote a blog post about Bradley mentioned his blog post about John Oliver's discussion of the Miss America Pageant (43:30)
• Bradley suggested that Intel should have instead given the Gamasutra money to Society of Women Engineers Scholarship fund. (45:30)
• Karen mentioned the statement Intel published a statement regarding the situation. (47:10)

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Karen and Bradley announce Conservancy's DMCA filing and Conservancy and FSF's joint launch of the copyleft.org project, and then discuss Eileen Evans' FOSDEM 2014 talk, entitled Licensing Models and Building an Open Source Community.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Conservancy file a DMCA petition regarding so-called “Smart TVs”. (02:00)
• Bradley mentioned the magic marker that was as circumvention technique under DMCA. Here's an amusing joke press release about the issue. (03:10)
• There isn't much documentation online of Bruce Perens live DMCA violation, but this article appears to be the main one on the subject, and there is also this interview (06:46).
• Bradley and Karen talked about the joint FSF/Conservancy copyleft.org announcement. (09:10)
• Bradley first pulled together the materials for copyleft.org for FSF's CLE seminars, particularly the one in March 2014. (10:00)
• Karen noted that Conservancy donated the time to write up a pristine example of good complete, corresponding source code for a GPL'd product. (11:30)
• Bradley discussed the incorrect GPLv2§2(a) violation accusations that some made against Red Hat regarding its changes to its publication of RHEL's Linux fork. (12:00)
• Karen and Bradley encouraged listeners to submit talk proposals for the FOSDEM 2015 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom (15:03)

Segment 1 (19:38)

This is a recording of Eileen Evans' FOSDEM 2014 talk, entitled Licensing Models and Building an Open Source Community. If you'd rather watch the video, which includes the slides from her talk, it's available on FOSDEM's site.

Segment 2 (46:40)

• Bradley and Karen discuss Eileen's talk.
• Bradley mentioned the OpenStack CLA fight, which was covered in a panel discussion on FaiF 0x4B. (56:16)
• Karen mentioned the 501(c)(6) issues that OpenStack Foundation has faced, which were discussed already on FaiF 0x4E. (56:34)

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Karen and Bradley interview Richard M. Stallman on the occasion of the 30th Anniversary of the GNU Project.

Note: Episode 0x5B was released out of sequence, but they are in the order of release date on faif.us (rather than numerical order by episode number).

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Note: Episode 0x5B was released out of sequence, but they are in the order of release date on faif.us (rather than numerical order by episode number).

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (01:20)

• This segment is an interview with Richard M. Stallman on the occasion of GNU's thirtieth anniversary.
• RMS mentioned the LibreJS project. (26:10)

Segment 2 (33:58)

• Bradley and Karen discuss the interview.
• Bradley mis-rememered, RMS said he would start on Thanksgiving in the original announcement (38.40).

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Full Article

Bradley and Karen play and discuss Pam Chestek's talk entitled Why Licenses Requiring Use of Trademarks are Non-Free that she gave on Sunday 2 February 2014 at FOSDEM 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• You can donate now to send Producer Dan Lynch to a Free Software conference. Donations will be made to Conservancy and any proceeds raised beyond the amount needed to send Dan to a conference will support Conservancy generally. (05:30)
• Dan will of course need to follow Conservancy's travel policy since Conservancy will fund his travel. (06:50)
• Bradley discussed the backstory on the Groupon attempt to steal GNOME's name. GNOME Foundation had to go public to raise funds to fight Groupon (10:05)

Segment 1 (00:13:26)

Pam Chestek gives a talk entitled Why Licenses Requiring Use of Trademarks are Non-Free. You can watch the video instead of listening to our audio and follow along with Pam's slides.

Segment 2 (01:00:37)

• Bradley mentioned Pam's talk from the previous year, which was played on 0x3C. (01:01:32)
• Bradley mentioned that GPLv3§7 allows for removal of additional restrictions that abuse that clause of GPLv3. (01:04:24)

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Bradley and Karen play and discuss

Stefano Zacchiroli's talk entitled Legal issues from a radical community angle that he gave 12:00 European/Central time on Sunday 2 February 2014 at FOSDEM 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:02:38)

Stefano Zacchiroli's talk entitled Legal issues from a radical community angle . You can watch the video instead of listening to our audio and/or follow along with Zach's slides.

Segment 2 (00:53:17)

• Please note: Bradley and Karen recorded these comments before the init system coupling referendum completed, which is why Karen and Bradley don't discuss it. However, their comments about the Debian democratic process are highly relevant to the recent vote. Also, Bradley discussed his views on that specific issue as a guest co-host on Linux Outlaws, Episode 368.
• Bradley and Karen discussed SPI as Debian's fiscal sponsor and used a few terms like grantor/grantee (01:01:20)

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Bradley and Karen discuss what plagiarism is (or isn't) and how it interacts with copyleft licenses.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:37)

• Please donate to to send Dan to a conference. There's a progress bar on faif.us now.
• You can also donate to support Software Freedom Conservancy, where Bradley and Karen work, by becoming a supporter.
• Karen mentioned her blog post about the supporter program. (00:08:30)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post about the supporter program as well. (00:09:30)

Segment 1 (00:16:16)

• Bradley and Karen pick up on a topic original discussed in Segment 1 of FaiF 0x02. (00:16:50)
• Bradley discussed the Laurie Stearns' article from the California Law Review, entitled Copy Wrong: Plagiarism, Process, Property, and the Law (00:23:50)
• Bradley mentioned The GNOME Foundation Copyright Assignment Guidelines that he co-authored. (00:28:05)
• Bradley mentioned the Doris Kearns Goodwin Plagiarism controversy, and how it would have been simply redressed if the material she reused had been copylefted. (00:29:26)
• Karen mentioned that Flickr made different policies for CC-BY-SA'd works when selling printed versions. (32:30)
• Bradley mentioned that even software freedom advocates just comply with the copyleft licenses and don't work collaboratively, particularly during hostile forks, using Conservancy's Kallithea project as an example. (00:35:25)
• Bradley reiterated a point he made in FaiF 0x08, where he discussed that Linus Torvalds switched to GPL for Linux because he realized non-commercial restrictions weren't appropriate. (00:37:50)
• Bradley mentioned the hostile fork of GCC called egcs. The H-Online years later wrote a long article that discussed the egcs fork egcs fork. (00:39:46)
• Bradley mentioned that plagiarism is ultimately about attribution, and modern DVCS systems makes attribution easy and renders plagiarism impossible (if DVCS logs are accurate). (00:44:15)
• Bradley mentioned that he continually has learned the lesson that if you let your employer keep copyright, you lose everything you had when you switch employers (if the work isn't copylefted). (00:47:00)
• Bradley discussed the methods of attribution required in GPLv3. (00:50:05)
• Bradley mentioned that copyright notices are the primary method of attribution in copyleft licenses, and even non-copyleft ones too. (00:53:19)
• Karen discussed the attribution requirements in text of CC-BY-SA 4.0. (00:53:49)
• Bradley wants to do a whole FaiF show about how CC-BY-SA may not be a true copyleft since it has no source code requirement (00:54:40)
• Bradley mentioned the “fake name” that film directors use when they wish to disavow a work they aren't happy with. The name is, in fact, Alan Smithee, and indeed the 1984 film Dune lists Smithee as a director even though David Lynch is known publicly to be the director. (00:58:40)
• Bradley mentioned the unfair accusations against Red Hat when they stopped publishing their internal Linux Git repository and instead released a more standard ChangeLog. (01:05:30)

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Bradley and Karen interview Carol Smith, Programs and Open Source Community Manager of Google Summer of Code about the program and its policies and procedures.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Bradley encourages those who attend FOSDEM 2015 to attend sign up to attend the Supporter Night Event on 30 January 2015 in Brussels, Belgium.

Segment 1 (00:50:11)

More Show notes for this one coming soon!

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Bradley and Karen interview Nick Coghlan, who works onn development and test infrastructure for Red Hat and is heavily involved with the Python community.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Bradley and Karen interviewed Nick Coghlan who works for Red Hat and contributes to various Open Source and Free Software projects such as Python. Nick discussed his work on the infrastructure team at Red Hat, and his advocacy of Kallithea for use for the CPython project.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the VMware lawsuit that Software Freedom Conservancy is funding.

Show Notes:

• Bradley and Karen discuss the lawsuit that Christoph Hellwig filed. (07:37)
• Karen mentioned her LibrePlanet keynote about the VMware lawsuit. (21:30)
• Bradley's talk at LinuxConf Australia 2015, Considering The Future of Copyleft, is available online. (22:04)
• Bradley mentioned the discussion on pump.io about NPR fundraisers. (24:23)
• Bradley mentioned a Debian 8 release party at LinuxFest Northwest, which Microsoft didn't invite him to, since he wasn't willing to give Microsoft his contact info for marketing purposes. (29:16)
• Karen and Bradley promoted the Conservancy supporter program (31:40)

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Free as in Freedom host Christopher Allan Webber interviews Karen Sandler and Bradley Kuhn about their work on copyleft and at Software Freedom Conservancy. You can become a Supporter of this work!

Show Notes:

• Bradley mentioned Cygnus Solutions, ultimately acquired by Red Hat, which was an early for-profit supporter of copylefted projects.
• Bradley and Karen discussed the VMware lawsuit.
• Chris Webber wrote this blog post in response to a Shane Curcuru, who is VP of Brand Management at the Apache Software Foundation, anti-copyleft talk at OSCON 2015. Shane's talk is consistent with Apache Software Foundation's historical and recent anti-copyleft positions (12:23)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's Debian Copyright Aggregation project. (Note: While it was released just after DebConf16, this episode was recorded well before DebConf16; the discussions about DebConf refer to DebConf15.)

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Note: While it was released just after DebConf16, this episode was recorded well before DebConf16; the discussions about DebConf refer to DebConf15.

• Bradley mentioned his talk at DebConf. This was recorded before DebConf 16, so Bradley is talking about DebConf 15, which was summarized in this blog post and his keynote from DebConf15. A video of that talk is available. (02:00)
• Bradley mentioned this bug about the copyright notice on the Debian website (07:47)
• Ian Jackson asked about bequeathing copyright at Bradley's talk. (15:45)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the plan for restarting Free as in Freedom and plans for episodes to come.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley said in the before time — in the long long ago, which is a reference to the South Park parody of the ST:TOS episode, Miri (01:30)
• Bradley mentioned when Karen Sandler left the GNOME Foundation and took over Bradley's old job as Executive Director of Conservancy. (02:20)
• Karen mentioned that Bradley used to be Executive Director of the Free Software Foundation, a position now held by John Sullivan. (03:25)
• Dan blogged about his illness, details of scheduling surgery, which he occurred successfully. (10:28)
• Karen mentioned the Conservancy Supporter program discussed in detail on Episode 0x57. (12:40)
• Bradley mentioned the short lived Jon Masters Linux Kernel Mailing List Summary Podcast. (14:45)
• Karen and Bradley discussed Video Killed the Radio Star by the Buggles, and Bradley attempted to mention this version which he likes better. (17:36)
• Bradley mentioned Kantian Ethics (20:05)
• Bradley mentioned the Portlanda skit, Rent it Out from S04E02 (20:24)
• Karen mentioned WellDeserved: A Marketplace for Privilege (20:38)

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Bradley and Karen give a basic introduction of copyright licensing of Open Source and Free Software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley mentioned the phrase “fixed in a tangible medium” which appears in the USA copyright law. (03:10)
• Bradley mentioned the Sherman Antitrust act. (04:05)
• Bradley mentioned the card game Pit (04:15)
• Bradley jokingly quoted Mit Romney's famous gaffe, “Corporations are people, my friend.” (04:44)
• Bradley read Title 17, the USA Copyright act many times. (06:50)
• Bradley mentioned the court case, UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. v. Berkeley Software Design, Inc., which resulted in releasing the parts of BSD that could be Free Software. (12:27)
• Bradley mentioned the FSF's Free Software Definition (13:11)
• Bradley mentioned OSI's Open Source Definition (13:16)
• Apparently, the problem of categorization is called Categorization in Philosophy. (14:30)
• The issue of Open Source not being trademarked is discussed in this essay by Richard Stallman. (15:44)
• The basic categorizations of types of FLOSS licenses are copyleft and non-copyleft.
• Karen suggests reading GPLv2 and GPLv3. (39:31)
• Bradley made a crude drawing of the spectrum of licenses. (40:20)
• Bradley mentioned the The Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement (55:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's conference trips and presentations during the first half of 2016.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

• Bradley attended and spoke at FOSDEM 2016 and LinuxConf Australia 2016 (03:10)
• Bradley and Karen co-coordinated the FOSDEM 2016 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom (04:43)
• Tom Marble did an interview-format discussion with Richard M. Stallman at FOSDEM 2016 (04:55)
• Bradley gave two talks at FOSDEM 2016, Copyleft For the Next Decade: A Comprehensive Plan for the GPL and A Beautiful Build: Releasing Linux Source Correctly (06:40)
• Richard Fontana gave a talk at FOSDEM 2016 entitled Open source foundations: threat or menace? (08:15)
• The Doge take on FOSDEM 2016 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom was Much politics. Many peoples. (11:00)
• There was a Conservancy Supporter event at the Novotel Grand Place in Brussels at FOSDEM 2016. (14:00)
• Bradley gave a talk at LCA 2016. (15:20)
• Karen gave the closing keynote at LibrePlanet 2016, entitled Companies, free software, and you . (16:54)
• Karen Sandler gave a talk at the Linux Foundation's Embedded Linux Conference 2016 entitled Tales of Enforcement (27:00)
• Karen gave a talk at at the Postgres Conference in New York. (34:26)
• Bradley and Karen were both on a panels at OSCON. (35:00)
• Bradley and Karen flipped burgers (vegan ones and otherwise) at the OSCON 2016 party. (39:30)
• Bradley gave a keynote at OSS 2016. (45:05)
• Bradley spoke at two user groups in Norway as well. He hasn't made the blog post he mentioned yet, but plans to. (45:50)
• Karen mentioned Episode 0x4A which discussed the OpenStack CLA debate. (50:50)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's ContractPatch Initiative that will help Free Software developers negotiate their agreements with employers.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

• Software Freedom Conservancy has two blog posts and a mailing list to discuss the Contract Patch initiative (02:40).
• Bradley searched for the NPR story he mentioned but just couldn't find it, but he did fine a similar one covering terms of service agreements (08:30)
• Karen mentioned the the Outreachy Project of Conservancy. (09:30)
• The Google Map API ToS states that you have to pay for it after a certain amount of usage (17:30)
• Bradley mentioned the book, What Color Is Your Parachute? (24:30)
• The “put it in writing” commercials from AT&T and MCI. (46:44)

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Bradley and Karen return, as promised, in 2018 (just barely)! They discuss the many non-FOSS and otherwise software-freedom-unfriendly licenses that have been promulgated in 2018.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Bradley and Karen discuss ideas for what to do with the oggcast going forward.

Segment 2 (07:49)

• Bradley mentioned the field of endeavor restriction in Open Source Defintion. (09:20)
• Bradley mentioned how badly Amazon treats its workers who pack boxes, which was widely reported this month (10:22).
• Bradley referenced that someone changed attempted to change a license on a project to prohibit use by USA border protection agents. This was the Lerna project, and Bradley wrote a blog post about it earlier this year. (12:14)
• Bradley mentioned the controversy about the new MongoDB license, the SS Public License, which Bradley also wrote a blog post about earlier this year (14:09)
• karen reports that many people at the Sustain OSS Conference were surprised that sustaining the idelogy of software freedom was something that people value. (27:10)

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Bradley and Karen pull back the curtain and begin the process of preparing their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software. This episode is the first of multiple episodes where Bradley and Karen record their preparation conversations for this keynote address.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Segment 1 (07:13)

• Bradley read out the abstract from Bradley and Karen's keynote, Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software at FOSDEM 2019. (circa 10:00)
• This started for Bradley with the HTC Dream, and Karen's struggle started with her heart device (10:42)
• Bradley and Karen discussed how they plan to organize their FOSDEM 2019 joint keynote.
• Bradley mentioned that if Karen and Bradley recorded an episode of the two of them reading Lorem Ipsum that listeners would likely still listen. Karen disagreed. (33:05)

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Bradley and Karen continue the process of preparing their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software. This episode is the second of three episodes where Bradley and Karen record their preparation conversations for this keynote address. In this particular episode, they discuss the golden age in history when they used very little proprietary software, and then discuss the beginning of their personal Dark Ages of using some proprietary software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley mentioned The Who's destruction of their instruments and his discomfort with it in relation to computers. (06:10)
• Bradley and Karen mentioned their long-time use of the HTC Dream (07:30)
• Bradley mentioned that he helped start the Replicant project, but his primary contribution was its name. (08:24)

Segment 1 (12:34)

• Karen mentioned the pinball machine that she owns. (12:50)
• Bradley mentioned the Dead Kennedys album, Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death. (25:10)
• Karen and Bradley discuss proprietary Javascript. (28:20)
• This is the screen you get if you attempt to use Google maps without Javascript. (28:45) Karen was wrong about this image no longer appearing. The image linked to here is from the day before our FOSDEM keynote was delivered. (29:55)
• Bradley and Karen recorded this episode while on site at LinuxConf Australia 2019. They had dinner the night this was recorded at a restaurant called, Dux Dine in Christchurch, NZ. There were, in fact, ducks dining at Dux Dine. (35:07)

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Bradley and Karen have the last pre-talk installment of discussing the preparation for their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software. This episode is the third of three episodes where Bradley and Karen record their preparation conversations for this keynote address. In this particular episode, they discuss the issue of letting others use proprietary software on your behalf, the problem of relying too much on that, and then finish up discussing with how they'll include this material into the final talk.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Karen discussed the idea of a shabbos goy, and the analogy between that and allowing other people use proprietary on your behalf. (02:58)
• Bradley and Karen discussed that it is equally abhorrent to ask someone else to use proprietary software for you as it is to use yourself, since someone's software freedom is compromised in any event (06:58)
• Bradley mentioned that he had previously applied to serve on the USA's Internal Revenue Service (IRS)'s Electronic Tax Administration Advisory Committee (ETAAC). Bradley mentioned how sadly the IRS typically accepts people from proprietary software companies like Intuit but has to his knowledge never accepted anyone involved in FOSS software for IRS form preparation (10:02)
• Bradley mentioned the Free Software PDF fill-in tools evince and flpsed (12:24)
• Karen stated that Conservancy's policy is that: We care so much about software freedom that we would rather use proprietary software than have someone else lose their software freedom. (15:20)
• Karen mentioned that her Linux Conf Australia 2019, Right to Not Broadcast, which you can view online. (22:18)

Segment 1 (23:15)

• Bradley mentioned the A-Team line, “I love it when a plan comes together”. (23:23)
• Bradley and Karen generally discuss the final plans for incorporating this material into the keynote

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In their final installment regarding their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software, you listeners can hear the final product — a recording of the actual FOSDEM keynote. Afterwards, Karen and Bradley compare notes on what went wrong and what went right (but mostly what went wrong) during the talk.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Bradley and Karen talk logistics of how the talk is embedded in the audio.

Segment 1 (00:04:14)

The audio in this segment taken directly from the video of Karen and Bradley's FOSDEM 2019 opening keynote, entitled Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software, which was given . If you'd rather watch the video, you can do so via FSODEM's video site in either webm format or in mp4 format.

Segment 2 (00:46:01)

• Karen mentioned “time shifting”, which was permitted for the public, despite accusations of copyright infringement, in the Betamax case. (55:10)

Segment 3 (01:05:31)

Karen and Bradley mention that the next episode will be an interview with Dan Lynch recorded at CopyleftConf 2019.

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Bradley and Karen interview their own producer, Dan Lynch, on site at Copyleft Conf 2019.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:46)

• Karen now teaches teaches a course at Columbia University. (03:40)
• In addition to being the producer of Free as in Freedom, Dan Lynch was the host of Rat Hole Radio, the co-host of Linux Outlaws, and currently co-hosts Hollywood Outlaws. (04:30)

Segment 1 (5:19)

• Dan helps co-organize Oggcamp which is having its tenth-anniversary event on Saturday 19 October 2019. (08:00)
• Bradley mentioned the phrase from IT Crowd quote: Did you see that ludicrous display last night? (11:08)
• Dan talked about The Manchester Ship Canal. (13:16)
• Dan promoted Hollywood Outlaws where he and his co-host Fab talk about Bosch. (23:18)
• Dan promoted his own podcast about comics called Tales of the Unattested. (23:27)
• Dan Lynch has a personal website, which has his blog. (23:55)
• Bradley referenced the phrase You are no Jack Kennedy which was stated by Bentsen on Wednesday 5 October 1988 during the VP debate between Quayle and Bentsen for the 1988 USA Presidential campaign. Details and background of this are explained by NBC in this story. (26:30)

Segment 2 (28:23)

Bradley and Karen briefly dissect the interview with Dan.

Segment 3 (32:22)

Karen and Bradley mention that they'll discuss the Linux Foundation initiative, “Community Bridge” in the next episode. If you want a preview Bradley and Karen's thoughts, you can read their blog post about Linux Foundation's “Community Bridge” initiative.

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Bradley and Karen discuss and critique the new initiative by the Linux Foundation called CommunityBridge. The podcast includes various analysis that expands upon their blog post about Linux Foundation's CommunityBridge.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Conservancy helped Free Software Foundation and GNOME Foundation begin fiscal sponsorship work. (07:50)
• Conservancy has always been very coordinated with Software in the Public Interest, which is a FOSS fiscal sponsor that predates Conservancy. (08:26)
• Conservancy helped NumFocus get started as a fiscal sponsor by providing advice. (08:53)
• The above are all 501(c)(3) charities, but there are also 501(c)(6) fiscal sponsors, such as Linux Foundation and Eclipse Foundation. (10:00)
• Bradley mentioned that projects that are forks can end up in different fiscal sponsors, such as Hudson being in Eclipse Foundation, and Jenkins being associated with a Linux Foundation sub-org. (10:30)
• Bradley mentioned that any project — be it SourceForge, GitHub, or Community Bridge — that attempts to convince FOSS developers to use proprietary software for their projects is immediately suspect (12:00)
• Open Collective, a for-profit company seeking to do fiscal sponsorship (but attempting to release their code for it) is likely under the worst “competitive” threat from this initiative. (19:50)

Segment 1 (21:23)

• Projects that use CommunityBridge are required to act in the common business interest of the Linux Foundation members. (27:30)
• Board of Directors seats at the Linux Foundation are for sale, according to their by-laws. (28:50)
• Bradley advises that you should not put anything copylefted into CommunityBridge — given Linux Foundation's position on copyleft and citing the ArduPilot/DroneCode example. (29:50)
• CommunityBridge appears to only allow governance based on the “benevolent dictator for life model” (31:40), at least with regard to who controls the money (34:30)
• Bradley mentioned the LWN article about Community Bridge. (33:22)

Segment 2 (36:54)

• Karen mentioned that CommunityBridge also purports to address diversity and security issues for FOSS projects. (37:00)
• Bradley mentioned the code hosted on k.sfconservancy.org and also the Reimbursenator project that PSU students wrote. (42:00)

Segment 3 (42:44)

Bradley and Karen discuss (or, possibly don't) discuss what's coming up on the next episode. Fact of the matter is that this announcement wasn't written yet when we recorded this episode and we weren't sure if 0x65 would be released before or after that announcement was released. We'll be discussing that topic on 0x66.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the details of the completion of the lawsuit (which Conservancy supported) between Christoph Hellwig and VMware in Germany.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

• Bradley mentioned the episode of Red Dwarf, White Hole, where the characters are speaking too slowly or two quickly due to time differentials. (01:30)
• Bradley explained that the Hellwig vs. VMware suit in Germany has concluded. (03:30)
• German is a civil law legal system. (05:15)
• Christoph Hellwig announced on his website that he has decided not to appeal. (07:18)
• Bradley did a technical analysis how much of Christoph's code appeared in the infringing VMware product. (07:50)
• Till Jaeger was Christoph's lawyer; Till was also the lawyer for Harald Welte's (currently defunct) gpl-violations.org project. (09:04)

Segment 1 (09:26)

• “Trolling” refers to being a non-practicing entity. Patrick McHardy is specifically a practicing entity, since he upstreamed a lot of code in Linux. (09:50)
• Bradley was thinking of the patent troll, Intellectual Ventures. (10:40)
• Bradley that the Eastern district of Texas hears many patent cases in the USA. (10:50)
• Bradley mentioned a This American Life, Episode 411, which discussed patents. Show hosts/producers Laura Sydell and Alex Blumberg visit one of those “empty-but-not” office buildings in the Eastern District of Texas. (11:18)
• Bradley and Karen wrote about Patrick McHardy's behavior back in July 2016 — Conservancy was the first to talk about it publicly. Bradley sought to prevent the “compliance industrial complex” from using knowledge of Patrick's behavior to unduly scare people. (13:10)
• Conservancy (with FSF) also published the Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement (15:10)
• The rest of the Netfilter team, except for Patrick McHardy, endorsed the Principles. (16:30)
• The VMware suit started 2015-03-05, and began before Patrick McHardy started his problematic behavior. While the VMware suit was working its way through the court, McHardy had filed many inappropriate lawsuits. (18:30)
• German court decisions are very rarely published, but thanks to hard work by everyone involved, the appeal decision, and the lower Court's decision (the latter of which was also translated into English.) (27:30)

Segment 2 (33:01)

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Bradley and Karen discuss two additional permissions that can be used to “backport” the GPLv3 Termination provisions to GPLv2 — the Kernel Enforcement Statement Additional Permission, and the Red Hat Cooperation Commitment. A blog post on Conservancy's site summarizes the discussion on this show.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley mentioned irregardless is not actually a word, but it does appear to be slang, which dates back to 1795! (03:23)
• The additional permission system was codified as a formal part of GPLv3, but are generally more informal under GPLv2. (05:24)
• Karen explained what the Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement. (07:49)
• Karen mentioned that Daleks terminate! (08:51)

Segment 1 (13:04)

• Bradley mentioned the inbound=outbound FOSS licensing contributor assent system (18:15)

Segment 2 (26:10)

• Karen and Bradley discuss the term “non-defensive” and what it means.
• Bradley mentioned the Twin Peaks lawsuit as a non-hypothetical case where the RHCC would not apply where GPL enforcement was used by Red Hat itself as a retaliation tactic. (29:23)
• The Kernel Enforcement Statement and the RHCC are available online.

Segment 3 (38:40)

The next episode of will be an interview with Molly De Blanc and recording of her keynote at CopyleftConf 2019

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Bradley and Karen enjoy and discuss Molly De Blanc's keynote at the first annual CopyleftConf, entitled The Margins of Software Freedom, followed by an exclusive interview with Molly!

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

• Bradley mentioned (without the title) the film, When a Stranger Calls, which is indeed a real movie, not a TV movie, and was from the late 1970s — although Bradley saw it on TV sometime in the 1980s. (02:15)

Segment 1 (04:11)

A recording of Molly De Blanc's keynote at the first annual (2019) CopyleftConf, entitled entitled The Margins of Software Freedom. Slides for Molly's talk are available on her gitlab account.

Segment 2 (20:11)

Bradley and Karen talk about the keynote and set up the interview.

Segment 3 (23:56)

Extended interview with Molly from on site at CopyleftConf 2019!

Segment 4 (34:06)

• Bradley and Karen discuss what ideas Molly's interview got them thinking about.
• Bradley wrote a blog post about Delta's anti-union marketing. (40:50)
• Molly De Blanc is now an employee at the GNOME Foundation and President of the Open Source Initiative (52:53)

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