Karen and Bradley discuss recent debates about the value of non-profit organizations for Free Software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Fontana (and other Red Hat employees) pointed out some imprecision in what Bradley said in Episode 0x1D about Debian non-free. (01:07)
• A call for participation has been announced for the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012. Please submit a proposal by 30 December 2011 (04:30)
• A recent debate about non-profits started, initiated by a blog post called Apache Considered Harmful. (12:55)
• Karen and Bradley briefly mentioned that some now believe that Considered Harmful Considered Harmful (13:16)
• A long thread on this issue occurred on the FLOSS Foundations mailing list (13:45)
• Bradley made an official Conservancy Blog post about the value of non-profits for Free Software (14:17)
• Sourceforge became proprietary software in 2001, as is well-described in this by The Sourceforge proprietarization debacle is well described in an article by Loïc Dachary. (19:19)
• Bradley mentioned FaiFCast Episode 0x11, which discussed the OpenOffice.org/Apache/LibreOffice situation. (44:35)
• Bradley pointed out that this debate conflates a lot of different issues, and tried to list all the conflated questions here:
  • Should a non-profit home decide what technical infrastructure is used for a software freedom project? And if so, what should it be?
  • If the projects doesn't provide technological services, should non-profits allow their projects to rely on for-profits for technological or other services?
  • Should a non-profit home set political and social positions that must be followed by the projects? If so, how strictly should they be enforced?
  • Should copyrights be held by the non-profit home of the project, or with the developers, or a mix of the two?
  • Should the non-profit dictate licensing requirements on the project? If so, how many licenses are ok?
  • Should a non-profit dictate strict copyright provenance requirements on their projects? If not, should the non-profit at least provide guidelines and recommendations?

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Karen and Bradley discuss the various private Free Software legal fora and consider if a more open community for discussion might be better, and also discuss the just-ended CFP for the FOSDEM Legal and Policy Issues Dev Room.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

• Bradley and Karen were discussing the NYS charities filing requirements for auditing and limited review, as can be seen NYS CHAR-500 instructions, on page 5 of 6, §V(6) . (03:02)
• Bradley and Karen mentioned the old show, SFLS 0x19, where they discussed Conservancy's FY 2008 Form 990. (03:27)
• Bradley mentioned he still works at a cow-orking facility (04:15)
• Bradley mentioned that various charity rating sites like Charity Navigator and GuideStar. (05:58)
• Bradley mentioned Lawrence Welk (09:50)
• Bradley is speaking on GPL enfoircement at SCALE 10x.
• keynoting on Thursday 19 January 2012 at Linux Conf Australia 2012.
• Bradley doesn't like the Chatham House Rule. (20:30)

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Bradley and Karen discuss issues of gender inequality in the software freedom community and technology generally.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

• Bradley and Karen discuss issues of gender inequality in the software freedom community and technology generally.
• Bradley wrote a blog post a while back noting that issues of gender inequality are technology-sector-wide, as shown on PDF page 10 of this study. However, Bradley incorrectly remembered the study: in fact, all levels of academic computer science are (23:19)

• Karen got a 5 on our Calculus AB exam, even though her teacher told her only boys were good at math. Bradley also got a 5 on the Calculus AB exam. (27:06)
• Bradley believes that Stand and Deliver. (29:37)
• Bradley is sure there is no Calculus in Good Will Hunting (30:08)
• Bradley mentioned that S05E11 of American Greed contained an rsync output on a Debian system and Python DBUS binding C code as “code cracking examples” (31:00)
• Miguel de Icaza had a cameo in the file Antitrust. (33:27)
• Bradley mentioned that Craig Mundie keynoted OSCON (38:55)
• Bradley mentioned the USENIX/Freenix to Perl Conference to OSCON history (42:50)
• Karen mentioned the GNOME Marketing Meeting at FOSDEM 2012. (43:27)
• Karen is speaking at Linux Conf Australia on 19 January 2012,Bradley is speaking at Scale 10x, the 2012 Southern California Linux Expo (44:16)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Jacob Appelbaum's talk at Linux Conf Australia 2012, as well as other conference talks.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley spoke at SCALE, but the talk was very similar to the talk given on 0x18. (07:15)
• Karen's talk at LCA was a longer version of the talk from 0x15 she gave at OSCON. Listeners should write in if they want Karen's longer talk to be a show (07:30).
• Bradley will try to record some of the talks from the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012 (07:55)
• Bradley mentioned the Red Dwarf episode, Legion where Rimmer says: Thank you for listening. Oh, additional: sorry to take up your valuable time. Sorry. Thank you. Sorry. Bye. Bye. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. (12:12)
• Bradley asked if the crickets in Australia sang Jump Around, since Karen said they jump around (15:45)

Segment 0 (18:51)

• Karen liked Jacob Appelbaum's keynote at Linux Conf Australia 2012 (19:20)
• Bradley mentioned Harald Welte's blog post about running his own email server (23:45)
• Bradley mentioned Ken Thompson's bug (34:03)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Ambjörn Elder's talk entitled Methods of FOSS Activism from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen summarize some of the logistics of FOSDEM.

Segment 1 (08:08)

You can follow along with Ambjörn's slides for his talk while you listen.

Segment 2 (24:04)

• Bradley mentioned Terry Bollinger's report, Use of Free and Open-Source Software (FOSS) in the U.S. Department of Defense. (26:13)
• Karen quoted the USA DoD in her Killed by Code paper. (28:04)
• EFF has engaged lobbyist in the past on some issues. (29:58)
• Bradley mentioned Noam Chomsky's point regarding concision. (35:32)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss John Sullivan's talk entitled Is Copyleft Being Framed? from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Dave Neary wrote an article based on his FOSDEM talk, and we're trying our best to fix the audio and have a FaiFCast of his talk, but it may not be salvagable.

Segment 1 (06:35)

• Follow along with John's slides from his FOSDEM talk.

Segment 1 (37:23)

• John referenced the source Black Duck numbers for which there is no methodology posted (38:30)
• Bradley mentioned Chris DiBona's keynote at OSCON 2010. (39:14)
• John mentioned the FLOSS Mole project in his talk. (42:50)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Panel on Application Stores, moderated by Richard Fontana, with Giovanni Battista Gallus, Bradley M. Kuhn, and Hugo Roy from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Karen and Bradley introduce the panel.

Segment 1 (02:15)

This is the recording of the panel. Some of the questions aren't completely audible, but Dan did a pretty good job boosting it in places.

Segment 2 (35:04)

• Bradley mentioned This American Life, Episode 454, that covered issues of labor that is abused to build our electronics. You can read a transcript or download an mp3 of the audio. (43:27)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Panel on Patents, moderated by Karen Sandler, with Ciarán O'Riordan, Benjamin Henrion, and Deb Nicholson from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• This American Life issued a retraction of the story we mentioned on 0x24. This American Life released a transcript or mp3 of the audio of the retraction. (02:21)
• Karen and Bradley introduce the panel.

Segment 1 (03:58)

This is the recording of the panel. Some of the questions aren't completely audible, but Dan did a pretty good job boosting it in places.

Segment 2 (32:21)

• IBM's amicus brief in Bilski clearly shows that IBM is pro-software patent. (33:48)
• The Linux System Definition which defines the only patents available for licensing by OIN licensees, was unilaterally updated recently without consulting the Free Software community.
• Keith Bergelt of OIN will speak at Linux Collaboration 2012 on the Legal track, which Bradley is chairing (35:29)
• OIN is a for-profit company. (37:54)
• IBM has attacked Free Software projects with patents, such as TurboHercules (39:22)
• IBM is the largest software patent holder in the world. (44:27)
• Red Hat refuses to grant a patent license for patent use in Free software, they have only a weak promise that allows them to sell of patents to others who may enforce against Free Software projects, or which could be revoked. (46:26)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Michael Meeks's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Risks and Benefits of Copyright Assignment from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen introduce Michael's talk.

Segment 1 (01:56)

Michael's slides are available from faif.us and from his blog post on the talk.

Segment 2 (26:47)

• Bradley mentioned GNU Mediagoblin as an example of a true upstream multi-copyright-holder AGPLv3'd project. (28:10)
• Bradley mentioned that LibreOffice is “wealthy” as well by Michael Meeks standards, given their successful fundraisers. (29:38)
• Bradley mentioned the Desktop Summit panel that he and Michael were on and Karen moderated. (34:06)
• Bradley and Michael co-authored (with Vincent Untz) the GNOME Copyright Assignment Guidelines. (35:30)
• FSF was previously supportive of MySQL AB back in 2002, but Michael also used to support the Sun JCA. (38:20)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Allison Randal's FOSDEM 2012 talk, FLOSSing for Good Legal Hygiene: Stories from the Trenches from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley talked about the #faif IRC conversation regarding hot milk recipe and its copyright. (01:54)

Segment 1 (07:10)

Allison's slides are available from faif.us.

Segment 2 (35:00)

• Karen and Bradley discussed the insanely complicated poster that Eclipse developers have to put on their walls to know how to accept patches (37:40)
• RMS's GNU Project essay talks about the Qt problem. (39:16)
• Bradley mentioned Chris Hertel's appearance on Linux Outlaws.(44:25)
• Karen mentioned The Scientific American article entitled Secret Computer Code Threatens Science. (54:00)
• Bradley mentioned Roland McGrath (56:44)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Loïc Dachary's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Can for-profit companies enforce copyleft without becoming corrupt like MySQL AB? from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen discuss FOSDEM again.

Segment 1 (10:10)

Unfortunately, we don't have Loïc's slides.

Segment 2 (32:03)

Bradley and Karen comment on Loïc's talk.

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Richard Fontana's Linux Collaboration Summit 2012 talk, The Decline of the GPL, and What To Do About It.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Karen mentioned a legal summit where Richard and Karen spoke; the same event where the organizers said having Bradley speak would be the same as having the caterers speak.

Segment 1 (04:46)

Fontana's slides for this talk are available on Fontana's website.

Note that this talk is a longer version of Ricahrd Fontana's FOSDEM 2012 talk, The (possible) decline of the GPL, and what to do about it from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Segment 2 (57:24)

Bradley and Karen discuss Fontana's talk.

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Karen and Bradley discuss Software Freedom Conservancy's announcement regarding its coordinated license compliance program.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Karen and Bradley discuss Software Freedom Conservancy's announcement regarding its coordinated license compliance program.

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Karen and Bradley interview Deb Nicholson of Open Invention Network, GNU MediaGoblin and Open Hatch.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Karen announced her pregnancy. (01:50)
• Bradley will be at OSCON, Karen might be, and Karen will be at GUADEC. Bradley will be at LinuxCon North America and LinuxCon Europe. (03:00)

Segment 1 (04:40)

• Deb Nicholson was previously on the show as Episode 0x25: FOSDEM 2012 Patents Panel. (06:00)
• Deb mentioned Linux System Definition, which is the OIN-published list of things that OIN members license their patents to each other on. (07:12)
• Deb and Bradley are debating Bradley's comment regarding Deb's points on the panel on 0x25. If you go back to listen to 0x25, the context for the comment they're debating starts around 38:00 in 0x25. (19:20)
• It's possible etymology of the verb “to harp” may indeed come from the musical instrument, not harpy. (31:00)
• Karen mentioned The Ada Initiative. (32:52)

Segment 2 (38:54)

Bradley and Karen talk about plans for upcoming shows.

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Philippe Laurent's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Open Licences before European Courts from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Karen and Bradley mention there is one talk remaining after this one from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Segment 1 (03:04)

Philippe's slides are available from faif.us. Note: the slides are licensed differently than the show: they are CC-By-SA-3.0-Unported (rather than -USA).

Segment 2 (32:22)

• Bradley mentioned FSF France's involvement with the AFPA case. (37:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss FSF's announcement of FSF's white paper on Restricted Boot, which critiques Red Hat's approach to restricted boot for its Fedora distribution and Canonical, Ltd.'s approach to restricted boot for its Ubuntu distribution.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

• Karen mentioned it's useful that FSF avoids preloaded names. Bradley used FSF's criticism of the term “intellectual property” as an example of why it's important to avoid biased terminology. (02:22)
• Karen suggested that listeners may want to read FSF's white paper on Restricted Boot. (04:00)
• Bradley suggested also reading the Fedora statement and both Canonical, Ltd. statements. (04:37)
• Bradley and Karen mentioned the many blog posts Matthew Garrett made about UEFI are worth reading in sequence to learn more about this issue. (13:21)
• Bradley mentioned that FSF collaborated with the EFF on the broadcast flag issue. (25:40)
• Alan Cox made some critical posts toward Matthew and the Red Hat policy. (20:50)
• Bradley mentioned this Ancient Aliens from the History channel. (39:15)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Mike Linksvayer's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Creative Commons 4.0 licenses and other opportunities for FLOSS/free culture legal/policy intersections from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen suggest that you use the slides below when listening to Mike's talk.

Segment 1 (05:51)

Mike Linksvayer's slides for this talk are available in PDF format and in ODP format.

Segment 2 (33:43)

Segment 3 (34:25)

A special licensing message from Mike Linksvayer.

Segment 4 (35:09)

• Karen mentioned Bradley's favorite movie, It's a Wonderful Life.
• Bradley mentioned Asheesh Laroia, who appears to never blogged about his CC/credit-card-thief freenode confusion story. (48:00)
• Bradley mentioned Fontana's Copyleft.next project . (50:00)
• Bradley mentioned the ST:TNG episode, Unification, Part II, although he kept calling it Reunification during the episode. Please don't write in to complain; he realized the error after recording. (54:39)

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Karen and Bradley discuss OSCON and GUADEC.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley represents FSF on the GNOME Advisory Board. (02:20)
• Bradley points out it's very dangerous when you can buy voting rights of a 501(c)(3) by paying money, such as the structure of OSI. Karen notes that contribution-based membership works very well for GNOME. (03:50)
• Bradley is concerned about the future of OSI's license list now that votes in OSI are for sale. (04:30)
• Bradley received an O'Reilly Open Source Award at OSCON 2012. Bradley blogged an acceptance speech for the award. (08:50)
• The Python award and the Perl White Camel award is also given at OSCON. (12:35)
• Karen mentioned FLOSS Foundations, and asked if there was a meeting at OSCON. Bradley mentioned it had been primarily rolled into Jono Bacon's CLS conference. (15:10)

Segment 1 (17:56)

• Bradley wrote in a post about the GUADEC 2010 conference to note how welcoming the community was. Karen described GUADEC 2012 as very similar in nature. (21:25)
• Karen mentioned her husband Mike had a similar reaction to GUADEC 2012 that Bradley had to GUADEC 2010. (23:50)

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Karen and Bradley discuss recent coverage of GNOME by the technology press, and more generally issues and concerns with the technology press.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:44)

• Bradley couldn't find support for his claim about in the can, and Karen may be right.(01:15)
• Bradley mentioned that the GNOME Foundation negative press recently is akin to what Harry Reid did by stating rumors regarding Romney's taxes. (05:03)
• Karen mentioned the Debunking Handbook that Germán Póo-Caamaño mentioned to her. (06:30)
• Bradley mentioned the quote I do not think [that word] means what you think it means from The Princess Bride. (13:30)
• Karen mentioned the GNOME 15 year Anniversary Site. (17:22)
• Bradley mentioned Dave Neary's GNOME census, and quoted numbers from the census. (21:30)
• Bradley discussed Eazel, a company co-founded by Andy Hertzfeld. (23:03)
• Karen mentioned GNOME's Outreach Program for Women, in which Conservancy participates. (25:34)
• Karen mentioned an article that came out on the same day as this audcast. (30:30)
• Bradley mentioned that some research by evolutionary biologists suggests language may have developed for gossip (38:48). Bradley couldn't find evidence easily online for the 80% is gossip claim on the audcase, but did find an article talking about 65% of human communication is gossip.
• Bradley mentioned the television series, The Human Animal. (39:17)
• Bradley mentioned a thread he recently posted in on the BusyBox mailing list. (50:32)
• Bradley mentioned that there are many cognitive psychological biases. (51:11)

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Karen and Bradley interview Christopher Allan Webber of the GNU Mediagoblin project.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:31)

Karen and Bradley introduce the interview.

Segment 0 (00:56)

• Karen and Bradley interview their guest, Christopher Allan Webber of the GNU Mediagoblin project.
• GNU Mediagoblin is licensed under the Affero GPL, but does not require copyright assignment and the developers have no plans to seek a proprietary licensing business.
• Bradley mentioned this dent by Stephen Fry on identi.ca, but that was in fact not his last dent as Bradley said. (21:50)
• GNU Mediagoblin is working on a fundraising video and will start a new fundraising campaign soon.
• Chris discussed this comic about trolls that was part of the slides of Chris' OSCON talk. (27:07)
• Chris mentioned the Open Source Almost Everything essay from GitHub's founder. (28:30)
• Karen mentioned Mike Linksvayer's talk in FaiF 0x2E. (39:00)

Segment 1 (43:36)

GNU Mediagoblin will be launching a fundraising campaign soon. Check back here for details later!

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Matthew Garrett's talk, Linux in a UEFI Secure Boot World talk from LinuxCon North America 2012.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Bradley mentioned that people at LinuxCon North America 2012 were talking about this article, wherein it states 51% of survey respondents believe [bad] weather can impact cloud computing. Bradley and Karen pointed out all the many ways that it can, such as if your services come via satellite links. (02:10)
• Bradley mentioned Matthew's talk might be best listened to before our earlier FaiFCast 0x2d about UEFI and Restricted Boot, as Matthew's talk is a very good introduction to that material (07:01)

Segment 1 (08:43)

The slides from Matthew Garrett's LinuxCon North America 2012 talk, Linux in a UEFI Secure Boot World are available.

Segment 2 (51:35)

• Karen song a part of one of the OpenBSD songs, E-Railed (OpenBSD Mix). (01:00:35)
• Bradley mentioned Theo de Raadt's comments regarding restricted boot. (01:00:44)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Richard Fontana's LinuxCon North America 2012 talk, The Tragedy of the Commons Gatekeepers.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:33)

Bradley and Karen introduce Richard Fontana's talk.

Segment 1 (02:48)

Richard Fontana's slides are available online, and there is also a well-written summary of the talk available on LWN.

Segment 2 (47:15)

Karen and Bradley discuss Fontana's talk.

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Karen gives an update on the advocacy of software freedom for medical devices, while Bradley continually takes the show off-topic.

Show Notes:

• Bradley mentioned Jimmy Fallon's … And We're Back script.
• Barnaby Jack showed lethal attacks exist on wireless devices. (06:25)
• Karen previously gave a talk about her heart condition on the show. (07:13)
• Hugo Campos, who also works on this issue. (26:08)
• Bradley mentioned the Therac-25 software-related disaster. (29:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:33)

• Bradley mentioned the BPM for the human heart is to the Bee Gee's song, STayin' Alive. (01:55)
• FaiF's bandwidth is provided by OSU-OSL. Please donate to OSU-OSL. (09:50)
• Bradley and Karen discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case. (12:26)
• Bradley couldn't find quickly a full telling of the windings/SCO font thing, but this blog mentions it (29:34)

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Karen and Bradley discuss RMS' essay on FSF's website, Ubuntu SpyWare: What To Do, and Shuttleworth's Slashdot interview that responds somewhat to RMS' comments.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Karen and Bradley discuss RMS' essay on FSF's website, Ubuntu SpyWare: What To Do (08:50)
• Bradley mentioned how Fab discovered (and discussed on Linux Outlaws 280) how a search for “ter” in efforts to find a terminal window in Ubuntu yields [slightly NSFW] gives results for Rachel Ter Horst DVDs. (09:44)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post about Nokia's problems interfacing with Free Software communities. (14:50)
• Bradley and Karen discuss Shuttleworth's Slashdot interview (18:25).
• Bradley and Karen also briefly mentioned Jono Bacon's comments about RMS's essay and Jono's apology. (19:30)
• Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comments during his LinuxCon 2011 keynote. (20:14)
• Bradley mentioned Douglas Rushkoff's article, Teach U.S. kids to write computer code (29:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance and other issues related to copyright assignment.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:46)

• Bradley didn't want his words compared to the Ayn Rand's quote from an interview with Phil Donahue where she said I'm not going to die, it's just that world will end. (02:54)
• Bradley discussed the reaction to on 0x36 that occurred in this identi.ca thread. (04:20)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance. (11:15)
• Bradley pointed out that every other copyleft license allows for relicensing under newer versions automatically (i.e., they have an automatic -or-later ), and Karen asked whether Sun's CDDL does. Bradley checked later, Karen was correct that CDDL's later version clause (Section 4) is similar to the GPL policy. (23:00) However, Fontana wrote to us on IRC to say CDDL's license upgradeability clause is not entirely like GPL's. The GPL states that if no version number is specified, any version can be used. CDDL does not say this; it seems to assume that it will always be clear what version CDDL code will be distributed under, whereas GPL seems to assume otherwise.
• Bradley mentioned the interview he did with The H Online on GPL enforcement. (41:57)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss the GPL Compliance Panel from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

Karen and Bradley have some not-so-witty banter about the FOSDEM 2013 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Segment 1 (00:07:19)

The speakers on the panel are (in order of appearance):

• Tom Marble, introduces the panel.
• Karen Sandler, moderator.
• Alexios Zavras
• Richard Sands
• Bradley M. Kuhn
• Harald Welte

Segment 2 (01:02:51)

• Bradley mentioned the Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons, but incorrectly said he didn't have an actual name, which he does (Jeff Albertson) (01:05:30)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Till Jaeger's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled What is a derivative work under European Copyright Law?.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 2 (00:02:41)

The speaker's that you hear are:

• Tom Marble, introduces the talk, and asks one of the questions.
• Till Jaeger, who gives the talk

The slides for Till Jaeger's talk are available.

Segment 2 (00:49:11)

• Bradley and Karen discuss Till's talk.
• Clarence Thomas spoke the first time in the Supreme Court. Bradley said that he said it did not, but apparently he actually said he did not. (59:49)
• Bradley scanned in his Brussels airport train ticket that had his notes on it, where you can read noa push caa. (01:06:40)
• Bradley mentioned the phrase Elvis has left the building. (01:07:15)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gabriel Holloway's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled FOSS code goes in and never comes out: The Challenge of Sandboxed Proprietary Cloud Services.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:05:48)

The speaker's that you hear are:

• Gabriel Holloway, who gives the talk
• Till Jaeger asks the first question.
• A few other questions are asked, but we're unsure who the speakers are.
• Tom Marble, asks a question later.

Unfortunately, Gabe didn't provide us with slides.

Segment 2 (00:52:25)

• Bradley mentioned the Berne Convention on Copyright. (01:07:19)
• Karen mentioned Cooper Union and how they are in danger of running out of money for their full tuition scholarships. (01:10:00)
• Bradley looked but couldn't find the NPR story about terms of use. (01:19:37)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Simon Phipps' and Amanda Brock's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Should We Embrace App Stores?.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:03)

• Simon and Amanda used no slides during their talk.
• Amanda misquotes Bradley at 07:30. Bradley said: An unenforced copyleft is the moral equivalent of a permissive license, not that you give a license automatically not by enforcing. You can listen to FaiF Episode 0x38 to verify.

Segment 1 (00:49:35)

Bradley and Karen discuss the talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Pamela Chestek's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled How to Share a Trademark.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 0 (00:02:05)

Pam gave us slides, but it's all in one big SVG.

Segment 2 (00:55:10)

• The talk that Bradley mentioned was this talk that Karen gave at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2012; he was unable to find a recording. (57:04)
• Note that most of the time the word source was used in the talk and Karen's comments, it means origin, not source code. (01:05:55)
• Bradley mentioned this Planet Money story about the 5¢ coke. (01:21:37)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the sexist comment issue that occurred a few months ago at PyCon USA 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley and Karen previously discussed conference behavior back in Episode 0x04.
• Bradley had blogged a few years ago about the issues of sexism through the computer industry, including this study showing the glass ceiling in CS academics. (05:17)
• Bradley mentioned that he'd blogged in the past that proprietary software companies also have issues of sexism at conferences (05:58)
• Bradley mentioned the How to Perform Like a Porn Star CouchDB talk at a Ruby Conference (06:13)
• There is indeed a Project named PyCorn. (09:38)
• Bradley mentioned the Planet Money story about Online Pharmacies but he couldn't find the original audio of the longer piece that ends with the phrase Stay Shady, Internet (21:30)
• Bradley mentioned a quote about the human mind being the most dangerous thing because everything is in it, which is actually from Heart of Darkness by Joesph Conrad. (23:40)
• Bradley mentioned that a keynoter at LinuxCon Europe made sexist comments back in 2011. (30:02)
• Bradley and Karen encouraged listeners to promote the GNOME Foundation Outreach Program for Women (31:20)
• Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comment at LinuxCon North America in 2009 (32:02).

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gervase Markham's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Mozilla: Licensing In The Trenches.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley encouraged listeners to Conservancy's campaign for non-profit accounting software.
(02:10)
• Bradley mentioned his 2009 blog post encouraging people to donate to Free Software charities (02:50)
• Karen asked people to donate to the GNOME Foundation privacy campaign (04:11)

Segment 1 (00:04:57)

Gerv's slides from his FOSDEM 2013 talk can be downloaded from FOSDEM's website.

Segment 2 (00:51:48)

Bradley and Karen discuss Gerv's talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss The panel discussion on the GNU Affero General Public License from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

• Bradley asked for donations again to Conservancy's NPO accounting software campaign and Karen asked for donations to GNOME's Privacy Campaign.

Segment 1 (00:04:50)

This is the Panel Discussion: GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 from FOSDEM 2013. The speakers, in the order their voices are heard, are Tom Marble (introduction), Richard Fontana (moderator), Bradley M. Kuhn, Eileen Evans, and Christopher Allan Webber.

Segment 2 (01:06:47)

• Bradley mentioned the phrase Give me convenience or give me death, which is from a title of the Dead Kennedys album he suggested applied to the selection of proprietary software (01:10:10)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' recent update to his Who does that server really serve? essay. (01:11:30)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post on doing VoIP encryption with Free Software. (01:14:04)
• Bradley mentioned his talk entitled The Affero GPLv3: Why It Exists & Who It's For? at the Southern California Linux Expo 11x. The slides are available and the sources for the slides are available. (01:17:30)

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Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in cars.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (00:01:43)

• Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in the automotive industry.
• Alison mentioned the Genivi Alliance, which is an industry trade association with some interest in “Open Source”.
• Alison presented a session at LibrePlanet about the Right to Repair act in Massachusetts. (00:14:30)
• Alison encouraged listens to get involved with Right to Repair and the Massachusetts Right to Repair.

Segment 2 (00:36:09)

• Karen moderated a panel at the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2013 on Automotive issues (37:12)

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Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

Show Notes:

Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (00:03:03)

Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin.

Segment 2 (00:25:23)

• Karen and Bradley wrap up the discussion about 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6).
• Bradley referenced this post which ocurred in this thread about Linus saying Greg KH is a door-mat. (26:36, 34:55)
• The OSCON session that Bradley chaired was Non-Profits Organizations for FLOSS Projects: There Is No Place Like Home, and the slides are available. (33:21)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Jean-Baptiste Kempf's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Relicensing libVLC and VLC modules from GPL to LGPL.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:28)

• The plural of hiatus appears to be hiatukset, but hiatuses is the proper English. (01:50)
• Bradley adopted two dogs from a shelter. They like kongs (02:30)
• Bradley's wife has a blog with pictures of their dogs. (04:30)

Segment 1 (00:05:52)

Jean-Baptiste Kempf slides are available for this talk.

Segment 2 (01:03:20)

• Bradley had written a a blog post about the VLC relicensing. (01:03:48)
• Bradley mentioned a an article in The Onion about pugs known health problems (01:15:47)
• Karen mentioned The Last GUADEC blog post.

Segment 3 (01:21:00)

Bradley and Karen discussed the release of the ExFAT Samsung source code.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss John Sullivan's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled State of the GNUnion.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:01:58)

The slides for John's talk are available, and the source of those slides is available too.

Segment 1 (00:54:31)

• Bradley mentioned RMS' essay, Who Does That Server Really Serve? (01:08:55)

Segment 2 (01:14:53)

Private Internet Access became a new GNOME Advisory Board Member.

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Bradley and Karen explain why they've been gone for so long, and then discuss the recent Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

• Karen is now Executive Director of Conservancy and Bradley is President and Distinguished Technologist. (03:01)
• Bradley will be working extensively on the NPO Accounting Project. (03:40)

Segment 1 (00:09:37)

• Karen says the Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision is not an engaging read, but the lower court decision was. (09:50)
• Karen said: You're out of your element, Donny! (12:38)
• Karen mentioned a tweet from the EFF (15:23)
• Bradley mentioned his older blog post about the previous decision (16:48)
• Karen incorrectly said we never recorded a show on the previous decision, but we did indeed discuss the previous Oracle v. Google decision in , which Bradley and Karen discussed in Episode 0x35 (18:53)
• Karen and Bradley explained what an affirmative defense, arguments in the alternative, and merger doctrine. (21:03)
• Bradley mentioned the Apache Software Foundation is now publicly more against copyleft software than proprietary software, and that such position is unreasonable, unlike the OpenBSD position that copyleft and proprietary software are equally bad: a position Bradley disagrees with but agrees is consistent, reasonable moral stance. (38:40)
• Bradley mentioned his discussions with Mark J. Wielaard of the Classpath project (52:20)
• Bradley and Karen ask people to doante to Conservancy.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the details, what to worry about, and what the usual duties are when serving on a Board of Directors for a USA non-profit. The discussion is primarily about 501(c)(3) organizations, but at the end they spend some time discussing 501(c)(6) organizations as well.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:44)

• An image of Alfie chewing on the antler (01:22)
• Karen is running for the GNOME Foundation Board of Directors. (05:15)
• Bradley once criticized the CNRI OPEN SOURCE LICENSE AGREEMENT (used for parts of Python), because it is governed by the laws of a place that doesn't exist. (06:48)
• Bradley mentioned a Planet Money episode that talked about it's “too easy” to incorporate in Delaware (23:50)

Segment 1 (00:32:25)

• Bradley and Karen discuss various additional things about being on a Board of Directors, including why and how you might be able to serve on one.
• Bradley and Karen discuss the requirements for getting on a 501(c)(6) Board like Linux Foundation (55:30)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:37)

• Bradley mentioned the Planet money t-shirt story (03:04)
• Bradley mentioned he buys Union made sweat pants (04:42)

Segment 1 (00:06:48)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 2 (00:07:20)

This segment is the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013. You can follow along with the slides.

Segment 3 (00:50:55)

• Bradley mentioned a talk he gave on 2005-03-12 at UC Irvine to a workshop of academics meeting about the research area of Computing Communities. Bradley still has some email archives regarding this, but can't find any online link to the workshop (URLs in the emails are all dead) or a recording of his talk. (58:52).
• As Bradley mentioned, ESR self-identifies as a gun nut. (01:00:19)
• Bradley mentioned FaiF 0x3A, which had Gabriel Holloway's talk (01:03:27)

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Bradley and Karen discuss why software freedom as a political, social and moral issue is important to each of them personally.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley mentioned that he used to frequently give talks on why software freedom is important to him. There are available on FSF's Audio/Video website three different recordings of that talk, usually titled Software Freedom and the GNU Generation. (01:28)
• Bradley's first distribution was SLS. (18:20)
• Bradley mentioned that OpenStack was denied 501(c)(6) trade association status by the IRS. (37:56)
• Karen mentioned the Cooper Union law suit. (48:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, copyleft-next: an Introduction by Richard Fontana given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (05:37)

The slides Fontana's talk on copyleft-next are available.

Segment 2 (01:06:51)

• Bradley mentioned the issue of Noam Chomsky's points on concision (01:13:23).
• Bradley mentioned the anti-GPL keynote by Tom Preseton-Werner of Github at OSCON 2013. (01:14:53)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the Harvey Birdman Rule. (1:27:45)
• Bradey mentioned a comment he posted about CHR-governed policy meetings. (01:29:00)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Why the free software phone doesn't exist by Aaron Williamson given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (04:06)

Aaron's slides area available.

Segment 2 (56:41)

• Bradley mentioned dakota imaging where he used to work. (1:02:15)
dacotag imaging
• Karen mentioned Aaron's OSCON 2010 talk (but we incorrectly said it was 2009). (1:04:35)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Contributor Licensing Agreements, which pulls material from Bradley's blog posts on the subject.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley mentioned FSF's copyright assignment process. (05:50)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' essay regarding what you should do if a company asks you to assign copyright on Free Software. (14:00)
• Open Stack is reconsidering their CLA.
• Bradley mentioned again that goofy Eclipse contributor poster. (27:22)

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Bradley and Karen host a panel discussion on CLAs with Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the panel discussion.

Segment 1 (01:28)

• The panel guests are Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.
• Van quoted from the Apache Corporate CLA. (40:55)

Segment 2 (48:17)

• Bradley and Karen wrap up the discussion.
• Bradley mentioned the AKG C1000S which we use to record the oggcast. (50:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Copyleft vs. Permissive vs. Contributor License Agreements: A Veteran’s Perspective by Simo Sorce given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Simo's talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:02)

The slides from Simo's talk are available, if you want to follow along

Segment 2 (00:59:50)

• Bradley menitoned his blog post about CLA's on Conservancy's website. (01:00:10)

Segment 3 (01:10:22)

Bradley and Karen are still trying to decide what to do about the FOSDEM 2014 talks.

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Karen Sandler interviews Lennart Poettering and Alan Day during the GNOME Asia Summit 2013. Bradley and Karen comment on this interview.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Karen's interview with Lennart Poettering and Alan Day.

Segment 1 (02:06)

Karen interviews Lennart Poettering and Alan Day about Lennart's Sandboxed Applications for GNOME talk at GNOME Asia Summit 2013.

Segment 1 (35:24)

• Bradley mentioned his comment during the GPLv3 process regarding the Ty Coon issue. (41:20)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the key differences between 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6) organizations in the USA, and discuss recent refusals by the IRS to grant such statuses to Open Source and Free Software orgs.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Bradley mentioned the 501(c)(3) vs. 501(c)(6) difference came up on FaiF 0x41. (03:35)
• Bradley mentioned that in 501(c)(3) status from the IRS is based on receiving some status governed by §170(b)(1)(A) of the tax code. (Most Free Software charities, such as Conservancy, are classifed as non-profit charities under §170(b)(1)(A)(vi).) (05:10)
• Bradley mentioned this issue had been discussed on FLOSS Foundations' mailing list (05:50)
• Bradley discussed that at the OSCON 2013 tutorial, Community Foundations 101, most of the 501(c)(6) representatives who spoke argued incorrectly that the differences between 501(c)(3)'s and 501(c)(6)'s were not substantive. (10:50)
• Karen referenced how the TV show Silicon Valley parodies the irony of for-profit software companies claiming they make the world a better place. (11:58)
• Bradley mentioned he was inspired by Michael Moore in his work on Free Software. (15:02)
• Bradley mentioned Karen's talk called Identity Crisis (15:21)
• Karen mentioned that open source was on the list of items the IRS gave additional scrutiny. (16:51)
• Bradley mentioned a blog post by Jim Nelson where Yorba's rejection was discussed; Yorba's 501(c)(3) application was previously discussed on was discussed on 0x1C, and covered in many other places. (17:46)
• Karen wrote a blog post about why she isn't worried for Conservancy's 501(c)(3) status at this time. (18:30)
• Bradley mentioned that IRS decisions don't make precedent, and if there's a dispute, it would go to USA Tax Court (19:00)
• Mozilla Foundation's odd hybrid for-profit/non-profit model was audited by the IRS, and Mozilla Foundation settled with the IRS. (20:22)
• Open Stack Foundation was initially denied 501(c)(6) status, as reported on Mark McLoughlin's blog. (25:10)
• Bradley promised links to both Yorba's 501(c)(3) denial letter from the IRS and Open Stack Foundation's 501(c)(6) denial letter from the IRS. (The response to the IRS from OpenStack, written by DLA Piper, OpenStack Foundation's law firm, is also available, too. (27:15)
• Bradley and Karen discussed Board of Directors meetings in FaiF 0x45: I'm Board (31:40)
• Bradley mentioned the How fresh stays fresh campaign, which includes the Nature's Pause Button television commercials by the American Frozen Food Institute, which is a 501(c)(6) organization. It's FY 2012 Form 990 is the most recent on available.
• Bradley also mentioned the Beef: It's What's For Dinner advertisting campaign that has existed for decades in the USA, which is sponsored by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, Inc. which is a 501(c)(6) as well. It's FY 2012 Form 990 is the most recent on available.
(35:40)
• Bradley further mentioned the Pork: the other white meat advertising campaign, which has also existed for decades but is now called the Pork: Be Inspired campaign, seems a bit more dubious in its non-profit existence. It appears to be funded by the National Pork Board Foundation, which is ostensibly a 501(c)(3) but has no assets, revnue nor expenses, and appears to be a front for an org called the America's Pork Producers / Pork Checkoff, which appears to be some quasi-govermental agency related to pork (in other words, it's pork for pork). More research would probably be needed to figure out better what's going on here with regard to non-profit status, but it seems that unlike the Beef ads, which are clearly funded by a 501(c)(6), this campaign is funded by a separate legislation, presumably unrelated to §501(c). There is, BTW, also, a 501(c)(5) called the National Pork Producers Council, which appears to be where the big money is (— not surprisingly — 501(c)(4)'s and 501(c)(5)'s often make 501(c)(6)'s and 501(c)(3)'s look tiny by comparison). (36:13)

Segment 1 (39:43)

Conservancy and OSI jointly announced a working group on IRS applications and denials. (40:49)

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Bradley and Karen discuss and criticize comments made by Linus Torvalds at his Q&A during DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen discuss the Q&A with Linus Torvalds at DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014. (01:09)

Segment 1 (04:30)

• Ryan Lortie asked about an offensive public statement Linus Torvalds made on 6 July 2012. (05:04)
• Bradley mentioned that Linus Torvalds argued Red Hat was kowtowing to Microsoft using offensive language. (07:57)
• Karen mentioned that Linus called GNOME an unholy mess. (19:05)

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