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Host: Charles Max Wood

Joined By Special Guest: Christian Heilmann

Episode Summary

Christian is a Principal Software Development Engineer at Microsoft, working out of Berlin, Germany.

Links

• JavaScript Jabber 332: “You Learned JavaScript, Now What?” with Chris Heilmann

• https://christianheilmann.com/

• Christian's Twitter

• Christian's LinkedIn

• Christian's Medium

• Christian's GitHub

• https://www.facebook.com/javascriptjabber

• https://twitter.com/JSJabber

• https://www.facebook.com/DevChattv

Picks

Christian Heilmann:

• https://webhint.io/

• http://csstricks.com/

• https://dev.to/

• https://codepen.io/

• Microsoft Edge Insider

Charles Max Wood:

• Privacy Badger - Google Chrome

• Emacs

• Adventures in DevOps - new podcast on https://devchat.tv/

Sponsors

• GitLab | Get 30% off tickets with the promo code: DEVCHATCOMMIT

• Sentry– use the code “devchat” for $100 credit 

Panel

• Chris Beucheler

• AJ O’Neal

• Aimee Knight

With Special Guest: Chris Biscardi

Episode Summary

Chris is an independent consultant working with open source startups. He taught himself to program and started in open source. He talks about how he got into programming and how he learned to code. One of Chris’ current clients is Gatsby, a static site generator. Chris talks about his work with Gatsby themes, how he got started working with Gatsby, and how you can get started with Gatsby. Chris talks about how Gatsby differs from other static site generators and how difficult it is to use. The panel discusses possible use cases for Gatsby, and agree that if your site is going to get more complex and larger over time, something like Gatsby is what you want to use. Chris talks about what it’s like to migrate to Gatsby from another service. The panel discusses the pros and cons of server-side rendering. Chris talks about building more app-oriented sites with Gatsby and things that you can plug into a Gatsby theme besides a blog. The show concludes with Chris and the panelists agreeing that if you can write it in JavaScript, you can ship it in a Gatsby theme. 

Links

• Gatsby

• Shadowing

• Docker

• React

• GraphQL

• WordPress

• Hugo

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Picks

AJ O’Neal:

• Sam Walton Made America: My Story

• Cinematic by Owl City

Aimee Knight:

• Some things that might help you make better software

Chris Beucheler:

• Venture Cafe Providence 

Chris Biscardi:

• Jason Lengstorf Twitch show

• Chris’ Blog

Guests Chris heilmann and Zohair Ali are developers for Microsoft working on the Edge project. Today they are talking about Edge on Chromium and the future of developer tools. Edge will now be built in Chromium rather than being its own engine, aligning it more with what is being used on the open web right now. The Edge team wanted to seize the opportunity to bring something into the Chromium project based on the needs of real users and contribute to the open source web. Edge on Chromium won’t be limited to Windows 10 either, but will be available on Mac, Windows 7, and Windows 8. This project is still in beta with no set release date, so the Edge team is looking for people to test it out on Mac and tell them how it works. 

Chris and Zohair talk about the different parts of a web browser and what distinguishes Chrome from Chromium.  Chromium is not just a platform, it’s an entire browser that you can install. Google adds a bunch of Google services to Chromium, such as being able to sign into your Google account,  and that’s how you get Google Chrome. Similarly, the new Edge adds its own features on top of Chromium, so you can sign into your Microsoft account. By now the browser engines are so similar to each other that the users are looking for the user experience, interface, and services around it, so it made more sense for the Edge team to contribute to Chromium than to maintain their own engine and help it improve.

Chris and Zohair talk about some of the features in Edge on Chromium. One service they’re particularly excited about is the Collections feature, where you can drag images, text, etc into Collections and export it to Excel or Word. Collections was inspired by what users need, and they talk about some of the different use cases for it. The new Edge on Chromium will also have an IE mode for products that still require IE 11. If you define what services need IE 11, Edge will open an IE 11 tab within the browser so you will not have to jump between browsers. Unfortunately, this feature is only available on Windows. Edge on Chromium will also offer an integration with VS Code, called Elements for VS Code, which takes part of the developer tools from Edge and puts it inside VS Code. Since the tools are based on Chromium, it stays in the same context all the time so you don’t have to jump back and forth, and you can see the changes live in your browser. This feature is in beta right now and they are looking for people to test it. 

The Edge team talks about their process for creating tools. They are working on putting their tools into other languages so that they are accessible to more people. They talk about how they want to avoid creating Edge specific tools as much as possible because they want to make it better for everybody. One of their biggest struggles is everybody demands developer tools, but nobody wants to contribute, so they don’t have as much feedback and not as much outside contribution. That’s why they keep calling for people to try out the new Edge on Chromium and give them feedback. They want to make that change more transparent so that they build things that people want. They will have to make some of their own tools, but they make sure that they don’t have any third party dependencies. They mention that all Chrome extensions are compatible with Edge, so if it’s available in the Chrome webstore, you can add it to Edge, you just have to be sure to allow it. They talk about some of the testing tools available. The show concludes with a discussion of the fate of Chakra Node. 

Panelists

• AJ O’Neal

• Aimee Knight

• Dan Shapir

• Steve Edwards

With special guests: Chris Heilmann and Zohair Ali

Sponsors

• Tidelift

• Sentry use the code “devchat” for 2 months free on Sentry’s small plan

• Views on Vue

Links

• Chromium

• Microsoft Edge Insider

• Microsoft Chakra Core

• Elements for VS Code

• MS Edge Driver

• Puppeteer 

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Picks

Aimee Knight:

• Cypress testing library

Steve Edwards: 

• CSS Tricks Screencast episode 174: Using Local Overrides in Devtools

Dan Shapir:

• The Chronicles of Amber

AJ O’Neal:

• The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages

• Lover by Taylor Swift

Chris Heilmann:

• The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

• TabNine

• doesthedogdie.com

Zohair Ali:

• Saga graphic novel series

Chris is an independent consultant working with open source startups. He taught himself to program and started in open source. He talks about how he got into programming and how he learned to code.

Chris' first access to programming was writing index.hml files when he was younger and again when he was majoring in Arts in university he was introduced to ActionScript.

Host: Charles Max Wood

Joined by Special Guest:  Chris Biscardi

Sponsors

• Sentry use the code “devchat” for 2 months free on Sentry small plan

• iPhreaks

• Adventures in DevOps

• CacheFly

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Links

• JSJ 386: Gatsby.js with Chris Biscardi

• Chris' LinkedIn

• Chris' Twitter

• https://www.twitch.tv/chrisbiscardi

Picks

Charles Max Wood:

• Follow Charles Max Wood on Instagram at CharlesMaxWood

• Follow Charles at https://devchat.tv/events/

• Suggest a topic/guests on podcast pages at https://devchat.tv

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Chris Biscardi:

• Follow Chris on Instagram at ChrisBiscardi

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