The government has geared up to roll out the delivery of quality rice at the door steps of beneficiaries from September 1. It already launched a pilo

The panelists discuss Chrome dev tools with Paul Irish.

Panel Kris Kowal (twitter github blog) Domenic Denicola (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 02:41 - Promises Asynchonous programming 05:09 - Using Promises from top to bottom 07:08 - Domains NodeConf SummerCamp 07:55 - Q 10:22 - q.nfbind 11:15 - Q vs jQuery You’re Missing the Point of Promises Coming from jQuery 15:41 - long-stack-traces turn chaining JavaScriptStackTraceApi: Overview of the V8 JavaScript stack trace API (error.prepare stack trace) 19:36 - Original Promises/A spec and Promises/A+ spec when.js Promises Test Suite Underscore deferred 24:22 - .then Chai as Promised 26:58 - Nesting Promises spread method 28:38 - Error Handling causeway 32:57 - Benefits of Promises Error Handling Multiple Async at once Handle things before and after they happen 40:29 - task.js 41:33 - Language e programming language CoffeeScript 44:11 - Mocking Promises 45:44 - Testing Promises Mocha as Promised Picks Code Triage (Jamison) The Creative Sandbox Guidebook (Joe) Steam (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) montage (Kris) montagejs / mr (Kris) CascadiaJS 2012 - Domenic Denicola (Domenic) Omnifocus (Chuck) Buckyballs (AJ) Transcript JOE: I can’t imagine your baby face with a beard, Jamison. JAMISON: I never thought I had a baby face. AJ: It was always a man face to me. JOE: Everybody who is 15 years younger than me has a baby face. [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [This show is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th. They'll be covering Jasmine, Backbone and CoffeeScript. For more information or to register, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] CHUCK: Hey everybody. Welcome to episode 37 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal. AJ: Yo, yo, yo, comin' at you live from the executive boardroom suite of Orem, Utah. CHUCK: Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hey guys! CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey there! CHUCK: Merrick Christensen MERRICK: What's up. CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week we have some guests -- and that is Kris Kowal. KRIS: Hello. Yeah, Kowal. CHUCK: Kowal. OK. And Domenic Denicola. Did I say that right? DOMENIC: Denicola. CHUCK: Denicola. DOMENIC: It’s OK I got Americanized. That's probably the proper Italian pronunciation. Hi guys! CHUCK: I speak proper Italian, so probably. KRIS: Yeah and for what it’s worth, I think that the proper Polish is Kowal or something, but yeah. JAMISON: Kris, are you from the Midwest? You have kind of Minnesota-ish accent. KRIS: No. I'm actually unfortunately from somewhere in the suburbs of Los Angeles, but I grew up indoors and did listen to Prairie Home Companion. So I don’t know. Maybe. [laughter] CHUCK: Awesome. All right. So this week we are going to be talking about… actually there's one thing I need to announce before. If you are listening to this episode, you’ll probably notice a little bit of a difference with our sponsorship message. I actually left off one important piece to one of the sponsorship messages and that is for the Gaslight software training that's going to be in San Francisco, if you wanna sign up, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com and you can sign up there. They’ve been a terrific sponsor and I feel kind of bad that I botched that. But anyway,

Joe Eames and Charles Max Wood talk about the advantages and challenges of working from home.

Pete Hodgson crosses over from the iPhreaks podcasts to talk with the Jabber gang about testing asynchronous Javascript with promises.

The panelists talk about Chrome apps with Google's Joe Marini.

02:34 - Michael Glukhovsky Introduction

• Twitter
• RethinkDB
• @rethinkdb

02:35 - horizon-js

04:52 - Versus Open Source Firebase

06:15 - The Security Model

• Horizon.io

07:56 - The Admin Interface

09:16 - RethinkDB + Horizon

10:56 - Versus Meteor

13:35 - Message Format

14:26 - Getting Started

19:01 - Real-time

21:24 - Security

26:56 - The Grand Vision; Use Cases

32:17 - Managing Deployment with Redundancy

Picks

• That Conference (Joe)
• AngularConnect (Joe)
• React Rally (Joe)
• Soft Skills Engineering Podcast (Dave)
• May the 4th (Chuck)
• The Developer Preview (Mike)
• The Art Spirit Paperback by Robert Henri (Mike)
• React Rally (Jamison)
• Uncanny Valley Podcast  (Jamison)
• Kishi Boshi (Jamison)
• David R. MacIver: On criticizing programming languages (without criticizing their users) (Aimee)

This episode was recorded live from The Microsoft Build Conference 2016. In this episode we chatted with Gaurav Seth of Microsoft about ChakraCore. You can follow him on Twitter, or check out what he’s done over on GitHub.

Picks

• TypeScript (Gaurav)
• Richard Campbell and Carl Franklin from .NETRocks

This episode was recorded live from The Microsoft Build Conference 2016. In this episode we chatted with Rob Wormald of the Angular Core team at Google about Angular. You can follow him on Twitter, or check out what he’s done over on GitHub.

Picks

• Visual Studio Code (Rob)
• Service Workers (Rob)
• Richard Campbell and Carl Franklin from .NETRocks (Chuck)

This episode was recorded live from The Microsoft Build Conference 2016. In this episode we chatted with Wade Anderson of Microsoft about Visual Studio Code. You can follow him on Twitter, or check out what he’s done over on GitHub.

Picks

• Parks and Recreation (Wade)
• VidAngel (Wade)

A special thanks again goes out to Richard Campbell and Carl Franklin from .NETRocks for putting this podcast series together! You rock!

02:50 The definition of a plug-in

03:31 The definition of an extension

05:09 The way to determine the plug-ins and extensions you are running

08:22 How to create an extension file

11:02 The appeal of creating extensions

13:26 How John got into creating extensions

15:48 Ways to organize extensions

19:38 Aspects of chrome that will affect extensions

23:23 Packaging for the Chrome store

26:22 Using dev tools

29:42 Conflicting plug-ins/extensions and how to deal with them

31:30 Open source extensions

32:32 A quick way to create an extension

QUOTES:

“I teach software developers how to be cool.” –John Sonmez

“There wasn’t an ability to extend the dev tools, but now there is.” –John Sonmez

“One quick way to create an extension is just to take one of these sample apps…and then just start modifying it…” –John Sonmez

PICKS:

“Django Unchained” Website

“Using Angular 2 Patterns in Angular 1.x” Apps Egghead Course

Girls’ Life vs. Boys’ Life on Refinery29

Webinar Jam Software

“Five Mistakes That are Keeping You From Getting Hired” Webinar

Screencastify Chrome Extension

How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big Book on Amazon

The Complete Software Developers Career Guide Book in Progress

Simple Programmer Website

Simple Programmer on Youtube

TOPICS:

4:00 Things that make web development more difficult

7:40 The developer experience with Angular

10:40 How cognitive cost affects the user experience

16:52 The variety of users for whom Mads’ software is built

22:14 Creating accessible javascript tools that aren’t immediately outdated

28:20 Why people shouldn’t be using dependency installers

34:00 Node updates

QUOTES:

“The massive introduction of new tools all the time is a big part of what makes web development harder.” -Mads Kristensen

“I’m not a pretty pixels person, I’m a code and algorithms person.” -AJ O’Neill

“I’m not hearing hype about people using HTTP2 to get those benefits, I’m only hearing hype around tools that Static built.” -AJ O’Neill

PICKS:

Death Note Anime Show

JS Remote Conference

The Alloy of Law Book by Brandon Sanderson

Zig Zigler Books on Audible

Mr. Robot TV Show

RESOURCES & CONTACT INFO:

Mads on Twitter

Mads’ Website

00:55 - Introducing Jerome Hardaway

• Vets Who Code
• Ruby Rogues Podcast
• Facebook
• Twitter
• Instagram

02:10 - Spouses and dependants of Vets Who Code

06:55 - Accepting and rejecting applicants

10:10 - The GI Bill

• Operation Code
• Dreamforce

15:45 - Military language and coding

18:20 - PTSD, trauma, and coding

21:10 - Moving past the veteran stigma

25:45 - Military backgrounds as an asset for jobs

30:45 - The future of Vets Who Code

32:35 - How much does it cost to be part of the program?

• General Assembly

36:15 - Is it easier or harder for Vets to get hired?

39:15 - Stories and memories

42:30 - Contributing to Vets Who Code

• Contact hello@vetswhocode.io to become a mentor
• Donate: https://vetswhocode.kindful.com/
• SwearJar
• Hiring managers please contact Jerome@vetswhocode.io

Picks:

Soft Skills Engineering Podcast (Dave)

Soft Skills Engineering Twitter (Dave)

Awesome Algorithms Github list (Aimee)

“The Churn” blog post by Bob Martin (Aimee)

The 12 Week Year by Brian P. Moran and Michael Lennington (Charles)

Vets Who Code (Jerome)

Practical Javascript (Jerome)

This episode features Moving from Node.js to .NET and Raygun.io with John-Daniel Trask. John-Daniel is the Co-founder and CEO of Raygun, a software intelligence platform for web and mobile. He's been programming for many years, and is originally from New Zealand. Tune in and learn what prompted them to move to the .NET framework!

Panel:

Amiee Knight

Charles Max Wood

Special Guests: 

Kye Hohenberger

In this episode, JavaScript Jabbers speak with Kye Hohenberger. Kye is a developer and co-founder of Side Way. One of Kye’s most notable works and library is Emotion, a CSS and JS library.

Kye talks about what CSS and JS library is about in the context of the Emotion library system. Kye discusses why this is practical for the writing process, in comparison to other types of tools that do similar jobs. Kye explains the how this tool reduces the number of lines of code and is compact and clearer.

In particular, we dive pretty deep on:

• What is a CSS and JS library?
• Controlling CSS with JS, what does this solve?
• Style bugs
• What kind of styling are you using vs. complex styles?
• Media query
• A more declarative style
• Using Sass
• Where do you see people using this?
• Class names and you can apply to anything
• How Emotion works!
• Style tags
• Object styles
• What are some of the problems you are solving
• React Emotion - dynamic styles
• How does this compare to other style components?
• Glamor Styles
• How do you test something like this?
• Just Glamor React with Emotion
• Can people use the Babel plugin
• Pure flag and function calls
• And much more!

Links:

• Emotion.sh
• Emotion-js/emotion
• emotion.now.sh
• @TKH44

Picks:

Amiee

• Article on Medium
• Antibiotics and Steroids
• RX Bars 

Charles

• Disney Emoji Blitz 
• How To Get A Job  -  JavaScriptJabber.com

Kye

• Styled System
• Face Paint
• Aussie Bites 

Panel: Charles Max Wood

Guest: Jerome Hardaway

This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Jerome Hardaway. Jerome used to be a panelist on Ruby Rogues and loved the ability to share his knowledge and interact with so many people from the community. He first got into programming by accident when he couldn’t find a job after becoming a veteran. He saw a commercial about job opportunities in coding, ended up finding a book on SQL and taught himself how to program. They talk about where he ran across Ruby on Rails, what he has worked on that he is particularly proud of, what he is doing currently, and more!

In particular, we dive pretty deep on:

• Jerome’s experience being a panelist on Ruby Rogues
• Loves being able to reach his goals in a speedy manner
• Ruby Rogues Episode 279
• JavaScript Jabber Episode 239
• How did you first get into programming?
• In the military during the recession and had trouble finding a job
• Saw a commercial about coding
• Taught himself SQL
• Wordpress
• Focusing on making Vets Who Code better
• People would go for products over projects any day
• Chose Ruby on Rails 
• Setting himself apart by picking to focus on Ruby on Rails
• Where did you come across Ruby on Rails?
• From PHP to Ruby on Rails
• Ruby
• Have you found the learning curve has gotten steeper for Rails?
• Keeping up with the JavaScript community
• What have you done on Ruby in Rails that you are proud of?
• Being the right person for the job when you don’t look like it on paper
• What are you working on now?
• And much, much more!

Links: 

• Ruby Rogues Episode 279
• JavaScript Jabber Episode 239
• Vets Who Code
• Ruby Rogues
• Wordpress
• Ruby on Rails
• Ruby
• JavaScript
• @JeromeHardaway
• Vets Who Code blog
• Jerome’s GitHub

Sponsors: 

• Loot Crate
• FreshBooks

Picks

Charles 

• Take some time with the people you care about
• Mattermost

Jerome

• Brian Holt Frontend Masters
• Pragmatic Studio

Panel:

• Charles Max Wood
• AJ O’Neal
• Aimee Knight

Special Guests: Valeri Karpov 

In this episode, the panel talks with programmer, Valerie Karpov from Miami, Florida. He is quite knowledgeable with many different programs, but today’s episode they talk specifically about Async/Await and Promise Generators. Val is constantly busy through his different endeavors and recently finished his e-book, “Mastering Async/Await.” Check-out Val’s social media profiles through LinkedIn, GitHub, Twitter, and more.

Show Topics:

1:20 – Val has been on previous episodes back in 2013 & 2016.

1:37 – Val’s background. He is very involved with multiple companies. Go checkout his new book!

2:39 – Promises generators. Understand Promises and how things sync with Promises. Val suggests that listeners have an integrated understanding of issues like error handling.

3:57 – Chuck asks a question.

6:25 – Aimee’s asks a question: “Can you speak to why someone would want to use Async/Await?”

8:53 – AJ makes comments.

10:09 – “What makes an Async/Await not functional?” – Val

10:59 – “What’s wrong with Promises or Async/Await that people don’t like it?” - AJ

11:25 – Val states that he doesn’t think there really is anything wrong with these programs it just depends on what you need it for. He thinks that having both gives the user great power.

12:21 – AJ’s background is with Node and the Python among other programs.

12:55 – Implementing Complex Business Logic.

15:50 – Val discusses his new e-book.

17:08 – Question from Aimee.

17:16 – AJ answers question. Promises should have been primitive when it was designed or somewhat event handling.

17:46 – The panel agrees that anything is better than Call Backs.

18:18 – Aimee makes comments about Async/Await.

20:08 – “What are the core principles of your new e-book?” – Chuck

20:17 – There are 4 chapters and Val discusses, in detail, what’s in each chapter.

22:40 – There could be some confusion from JavaScript for someone where this is their first language. Does Async/Await have any affect on the way you program or does anything make it less or more confusing in the background changes?

24:30 – Val answers the before-mentioned question. Async/Await does not have anyway to help with this (data changes in the background).

25:36 – “My procedural code, I know that things won’t change on me because it is procedural code. Is it hard to adjust to that?” – AJ

26:01 – Val answers the question.

26:32 – Building a webserver with Python. 

27:31 – Aimee asks a question: “Do you think that there are cases in code base, where I would want to use Promises? Not from a user’s perspective, but what our preferences are, but actual performance. Is there a reason why I would want to use both or be consistent across the board?”

28:17 – Val asks for some clarification to Aimee’s question.

29:14 – Aimee: “My own personal preference is consistency. Would I want to use Promises in ‘x’ scenario and/or use Async/Await in another situation?”

32:28 – Val and AJ are discussing and problem solving different situations that these programs

33:05 – “When would you not want to use Async/Await?” – AJ

33:25 – Val goes through the different situations when he would not use Async/Await. 

33:44 – Chuck is curious about other features of Async/Await and asks Val.

36:40 – Facebook’s Regenerator

37:11 – AJ: “Back in the day, people would be really concerned with JavaScript’s performance even with Chrome.” He continues his thoughts on this topic.

38:11 – Val answers the AJ’s question.

39:10 – Duck JS probably won’t include generators.

41:18 – Val: “Have anyone used Engine Script before?” The rest of the panel had never heard of this before.

42:09 – Windows Scripting Host

42:56 – Val used Rhino in the past.

43:40 – Val: “Going back to the web performance question...”

47:08 – “Where do you see using Async/Await the most?” – Chuck

47:55 – Val uses Async/Await for everything on the backend because it has made everything so easy for him.

48:23 – “So this is why you really haven’t used Web Pack?” – AJ

49:20 – Let’s go to Aimee’s Picks!

50:18 – AJ’s story, first, before we get to Promises.

54:44 – Let’s transition to Promises Finally.

54:53 – Val talks about Promises Finally.

59:20 – Picks

Links:

• JavaScript
• Valeri Karpov’s GitHub
• Valeri Karpov’s Twitter
• Valeri Karpov’s LinkedIn
• New E-Book: Mastering Async/Await
• Node
• Python
• Windows Scripting Host
• Facebook’s Regenerator
• Rhino

Sponsors:

• Kendo UI
• Sentry
• Digital Ocean
•  

Picks:

Charles

• YouTube Video “IKEA” by Coulton
• Conference
• Amazon Prime Day

Aimee

• Blog Post Article

AJ

• IKEA
• https://ppl.family

Val

• https://www.npmjs.com/package/serve
• http://bit.ly/ultimate-skiing
• http://asyncawait.net/jsjabber
• New E-Book: Mastering Async/Await

Panel:

• Aimee Knight
• AJ O’Neal
• Charles Max Wood

Special Guest: PJ Evans

In this episode, the panel talks with PJ Evans who is a course developer and an instructor through Manning’s course titled, “Node.js in Motion.” This course is great to learn the fundamentals of Node, which you can check out here! The panel and PJ talk about this course, his background, and current projects that PJ is working on. Check out today’s episode to hear more!

Show Topics:

0:00 – Advertisement: KENDO UI

0:36 – Chuck: Welcome and our panel consists of Aimee, AJ, myself, and our special guest is PJ Evans. Tell us about yourself and your video course! NODE JS in Motion is the title of the course. Can you tell us more?

1:29 – PJ: It’s a fantastic course.

2:25 – Chuck: You built this course and there is a lot to talk about.

2:36 – Aimee: Let’s talk about Node and the current state. 

2:50 – Chuck: Here’s the latest features, but let’s talk about where do you start with this course? How do you get going with Node? What do people need to know with Node?

3:20 – Aimee.

3:24 – PJ talks about Node and his course!

4:02 – PJ: The biggest headache with Node is the...

4:13 – Chuck.

4:19 – PJ: I am sure a lot of the listeners are familiar with callback hell.

4:50 – Aimee: Let’s talk about the complexities of module support in Node!

5:10 – PJ: It’s a horrible mess.

5:17 – Aimee: Maybe not the tech details but let’s talk about WHAT the problem is?

5:31 – PJ: You are talking about Proper Native ES6 right?

They are arguing about how to implement it. 

6:11 – PJ: My advice is (if you are a professional) is to stick with the LT6 program. No matter how tensing those new features are!

6:46 – Aimee: It could be outdated but they had to come back and say that there were tons of complexities and we have to figure out how to get there.

7:06 – PJ: They haven’t found an elegant way to do it.

7:15 – Panel: If it’s a standard why talk about it?

Seriously – if this is a standard why not implement THE standard?

7:38 – PJ.

8:11 – Panel.

8:17 – Aimee: I would love to talk about this, though!

8:24 – Chuck: I want to talk about the course, please.

8:30 – PJ.

8:54 – Chuck: We will keep an eye on it.

9:05 – PJ.

9:16 – PJ: How is it on the browser-side?

9:33 – Aimee: I don’t want to misspeak.

9:41 – Chuck: I don’t know how complete the forms are.

9:49 – Aimee: I don’t want to misspeak.

9:56 – PJ: I just found the page that I wanted and they are calling it the .MJS or aka the Michael Jackson Script. You can do an import from...

Some people think it’s FINE and others think that it’s a TERRIBLE idea.

10:42 – Chuck: “It sounds like it’s a real THRILLER!”

10:52 – Panel.

11:25 – Panel: When you start calling things the Michael Jackson Solution you know things aren’t well.

11:44 – Aimee: Just to clarify for users...

11:57 – Chuck: I want to point us towards the course: NODE.JS.

Chuck asks two questions.

12:34 – PJ: The concepts aren’t changing, but the information is changing incredibly fast. The fundamentals are fairly settled.

13:22 – Chuck: What are those things?

13:28 – PJ talks about how he structured the course and he talks about the specifics.

15:33 – Chuck: Most of my backend stuff is done in Ruby. Aimee and AJ do more Java then I do.

15:55 – Panel: I think there is something to understanding how different Node is. I think that Node is a very fast moving train. Node has a safe place and that it’s good for people to know about this space.

16:34 – Aimee: Not everyone learns this way, but for me I like to understand WHY I would want to use Node and not another tool. For me, this talk in the show notes really helped me a lot. That’s the core and the nature of NODE.

17:21 – PJ: Yes, absolutely. Understanding the event loop and that’s aimed more towards people from other back ends. Right from the beginning we go over that detail: Here is how it works, we give them examples, and more.

18:08 – Aimee: You can do more than just create APIs.

Aimee mentions Vanilla Node.

18:50 – PJ: To get into frameworks we do a 3-line server. We cover express, and also Sequelize ORM.

19:45 – Advertisement – Sentry.io

20:43 – Chuck: I never used Pug.

20:45 – PJ: PUG used to be called JADE.

20:56 – Aimee.

21:14 – PJ: Express does that for you and I agree with you. I advocate a non-scripted approach, I like when frameworks have a light touch.

22:05 – Aimee: That’s what I liked about it. No offense, Chuck, but for me I didn’t like NOT knowing a lot of what was not happening under the hood. I didn’t want to reinvent the wheel, but I wanted to build at a lower level.

22:40 – PJ: I had the same experience. I wanted to figure out why something wasn’t working.

23:24 – Panel: I had a friend who used Rails...he was cautious to make a switch. This past year he was blown away with how much simpler it was and how fast things were.

24:05 – Aimee: I feel like if you want to learn JavaScript then Node might be easier on the frontend.

24:21 – Chuck: No pun intended.

No, but I agree. I like about Rails is that you had well-understood patterns. But the flipside is that you have abstractions...

To a certain degree: what did I do wrong? And you didn’t follow the pattern properly.

25:57 – Panel: With Node you get a little bit of both. To me it’s a more simple approach, but the downside is that you have 100’s of 1,000’s of modules that almost identical things. When you start reaching out to NPM that...

26:29 – PJ: Yes the module system of NPM is the best/worst thing about NODE. I don’t have an answer, honestly.

There is a great article written that made me turn white. Here is the article!

28:12 – Panel: The same thing happened with the ESLint. That was the very problem that he was describing in the article.

28:50 – PJ: Yep, I put that in the chat there – go ahead and read it! It’s not a problem that’s specific to Node, there are others. It’s the way we do things now.

29:23 – Chuck: We have the NODE Security project. A lot of stuff go into NPM everyday.

29:43 – PJ: We cover those things in the course.

29:53 – Chuck: It’s the reality. Is there a place that people get stuck?

30:00 – PJ answers the question.

30:23 – Aimee.

30:55 – PJ: I am coding very similar to my PHP days.

31:20 – Aimee.

32:02 – PJ: To finish off my point, I hope people don’t loose sight.

32:18 – Aimee.

32:20 – PJ: I am working on a project that has thousands of requests for...

32:53 – Chuck: Anything you WANTED to put into the course, but didn’t have time to?

33:05 – PJ: You can get pretty technical. It’s not an advanced course, and it won’t turn you into a rock star. This is all about confidence building. It’s to understand the fundamentals.

It’s a runtime of 6 hours and 40 minutes – you aren’t just watching a video. You have a transcript, too, running off on the side. You can sit there and type it out w/o leaving – so it’s a very interactive course.

34:26 – Chuck: You get people over the hump. What do you think people need to know to be successful with Node?

34:38 – PJ answers the question.

PJ: I think it’s a lot of practice and the student to go off and be curious on their own terms.

35:13 – Chuck: You talked about callbacks – I am thinking that one is there to manage the other?

35:31 – PJ answers the question.

PJ: You do what works for you – pick your style – do it as long as people can follow you. Take the analogy of building a bridge.

36:53 – Chuck: What are you working on now?

37:00 – PJ: Educational tool called SCHOOL PLANNER launched in Ireland, so teachers can do their lesson planning for the year and being built with Express.

Google Classroom and Google Calendar.

39:01 – PJ talks about Pi and 4wd. See links below.

40:09 – Node can be used all over the place!

40:16  - Chuck: Yes, the same can be said for other languages. Yes, Node is in the same space.

40:31 – PJ: Yep!

40:33 – Chuck: If people want to find you online where can they find you?

40:45 – PJ: Twitter! Blog!

41:04 – Picks!

41:05 – Advertisement – eBook: Get a coder job!

Links:

• JavaScript
• jQuery
• React
• Elixir
• Elm
• Vue
• ESLint
• Node.js
• Node Security Project
• Node Security Project - Medium
• Manning Publications: Course by PJ Evans
• PUG
• JSConf EU – talk with Philip Roberts
• Medium Article by David Gilbertson
• Hackster.io – Pi Car
• Pi Moroni
• Holding a Program in One’s Head
• PJ Evans’ Twitter

Sponsors:

• Kendo UI
• Sentry
• Cache Fly
• Get a Coder Job

Picks:

Aimee

• Paul Graham - Blog

AJ

• Rust

Charles

• Tweet Mash-up
• The Diabetes Code

PJ

• Music - Max Richter

Sponsors

• Triplebyte offers a $1000 signing bonus

• Sentry use the code “devchat” for $100 credit

• CacheFly

Panel

• Charles Max Wood

Joined by Special Guest: Jessica Deen

Episode Summary

Coming to you live from the podcast booth at Microsoft BUILD is Charles Max Wood with The Deen of DevOps aka Jessica Deen. Jessica is a Senior Cloud Advocate at Microsoft. As an advocate she acts a liaison between developer communities and Microsoft to help understand developer pain points and road blocks especially in areas such as Linux, open-source technologies, infrastructure, Kubernetes, containers and DevOps. Jessica explains how to go about setting up a containerized application, Kubernetes and how to use Dockerfiles. Charles and Jessica then talk about how to get started with a Kubernetes cluster and the resources available for developers that don't have any infrastructure. Jessica advises that developers start with Azure DevOps Services and then go to Microsoft Learn Resource.

Charles also encourages listeners to also check out the Views on Vue podcast Azure DevOps with Donovan Brown for further references. Jessica also recommends following people on Twitter and GitHub to find out about solutions and resources.

Links

• Dockerfile and Windows Containers

• Kubernetes

• Jessica’s GitHub

• Jessica’s Twitter

• Jessica’s LinkedIn

• Jessica’s Website

• Microsoft Build 2019

• Microsoft Learn Resource

• HTTP application routing

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Guests Chris heilmann and Zohair Ali are developers for Microsoft working on the Edge project. Today they are talking about Edge on Chromium and the future of developer tools. Edge will now be built in Chromium rather than being its own engine, aligning it more with what is being used on the open web right now. The Edge team wanted to seize the opportunity to bring something into the Chromium project based on the needs of real users and contribute to the open source web. Edge on Chromium won’t be limited to Windows 10 either, but will be available on Mac, Windows 7, and Windows 8. This project is still in beta with no set release date, so the Edge team is looking for people to test it out on Mac and tell them how it works. 

Chris and Zohair talk about the different parts of a web browser and what distinguishes Chrome from Chromium.  Chromium is not just a platform, it’s an entire browser that you can install. Google adds a bunch of Google services to Chromium, such as being able to sign into your Google account,  and that’s how you get Google Chrome. Similarly, the new Edge adds its own features on top of Chromium, so you can sign into your Microsoft account. By now the browser engines are so similar to each other that the users are looking for the user experience, interface, and services around it, so it made more sense for the Edge team to contribute to Chromium than to maintain their own engine and help it improve.

Chris and Zohair talk about some of the features in Edge on Chromium. One service they’re particularly excited about is the Collections feature, where you can drag images, text, etc into Collections and export it to Excel or Word. Collections was inspired by what users need, and they talk about some of the different use cases for it. The new Edge on Chromium will also have an IE mode for products that still require IE 11. If you define what services need IE 11, Edge will open an IE 11 tab within the browser so you will not have to jump between browsers. Unfortunately, this feature is only available on Windows. Edge on Chromium will also offer an integration with VS Code, called Elements for VS Code, which takes part of the developer tools from Edge and puts it inside VS Code. Since the tools are based on Chromium, it stays in the same context all the time so you don’t have to jump back and forth, and you can see the changes live in your browser. This feature is in beta right now and they are looking for people to test it. 

The Edge team talks about their process for creating tools. They are working on putting their tools into other languages so that they are accessible to more people. They talk about how they want to avoid creating Edge specific tools as much as possible because they want to make it better for everybody. One of their biggest struggles is everybody demands developer tools, but nobody wants to contribute, so they don’t have as much feedback and not as much outside contribution. That’s why they keep calling for people to try out the new Edge on Chromium and give them feedback. They want to make that change more transparent so that they build things that people want. They will have to make some of their own tools, but they make sure that they don’t have any third party dependencies. They mention that all Chrome extensions are compatible with Edge, so if it’s available in the Chrome webstore, you can add it to Edge, you just have to be sure to allow it. They talk about some of the testing tools available. The show concludes with a discussion of the fate of Chakra Node. 

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With special guests: Chris Heilmann and Zohair Ali

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